The Jewish War On Free Speech
The Jewish War On Free Speech
By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2012
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THE JEWISH WAR on free speech continues to be waged on American citizens.
The latest assault by Jewry on freedom of expression is the case of the anti-Israel billboards in Los Angeles, California.
On June 26, 2012, a subsidiary of the CBS Corporation removed
23 billboards in the Los Angeles area that called for a stop to Amerika’s mammoth monetary aid to Israel.The Coalition to Stop $30 Billion to Israel which sponsored the billboards said in a statement that it received a letter from CBS Outdoor, a subsidiary of the CBS Corporation, stating that their contract was canceled because the Coalition “used the CBS Outdoor name without permission” in its publicity.
The so-called “publicity” was because the Coalition publically thanked CBS Outdoor for initially affirming the group’s First Amendment Right to express their sentiments.
The 23 billboards simply stated: “Tell Congress: Spend Our Money at Home, Not on the Israeli Military.” But Jews fear freedom of expression and launched their assault.
Congressman Howard Berman, whose congressional district includes Los Angeles, and who co-chairs the House Foreign Relations Committee, was offended by the Coalition’s exercise of their First Amendment rights.
— Berman also recently applauded the Senate’s version of the House Bill that declares Amerika’s support and military funding of Israel, specifying Amerika’s affirmation of Israel as a “Jewish state” — contrary to the US Constitution’s prohibition of Congress enacting a law that endorses a particular religious group.
Berman’s fellow Jew, Barbara Boxer, sponsored the Bill, affirming Eric Cantor’s (also a Jew) House version of the Bill. It will soon become law once the Jewish-puppet Obama signs the Act. —
Together with the Anti-Defamation League and Rabbi Abraham Cooper of the Simon Wiesenthal Center—dedicated to hunting down “Nazis”—Berman apparently pressured CBS Outdoor to dismantle the billboards and the company reportedly caved in to the intense Jewish pressure.
In their place, the pro-Israel group, Stand With US, is planning on erecting a number of billboards calling on Amerikans to support the anti-Christ state of Israel. CBS Outdoor will, of course, gladly welcome their business and will not allow any anti-Israel group to force their dismantling.
Berman and his Jewish comrades denounced the Coalition to Stop $30 Billion to Israel’s billboards as being “provocative” and thus worthy of censure.
This is a typical Jewish response to any message that counters their agenda.
For to “provoke” the citizens of Amerika into thinking for themselves (something impossible for Amerikans to do) is tantamount to a criminal act as far as Jewry is concerned.
Jewry’s latest spokesman in its efforts to justify the criminalization of “provocative” speech is NYU Professor of Law, Jeremy Waldron, a Jew.
Waldron argues in his book, “The Harm of Hate Speech,” now enjoying rave reviews from the Jewish-owned NY Times—”an engaging new book”—that hate speech should be “regulated” in Amerika so as to “protect” members of vulnerable minorities.
Not that Jews care about “minorities,” (I grew up as a Jew and Jews find it abhorrent that they should ever be forced to live in “minority” neighborhoods), but that Jewry wishes to stem rising criticism of Jewish power that threatens their safe haven in Amerika.
Waldron’s initiative would also criminalize the citing of anti-homosexual passages from the New Testament by Christians.
THE JEWISH WAR on free speech is moving full speed ahead.
And all the Amerikans who “love the Jewish people” will soon find not only GAGS in their mouths but the Jewish-enabled privilege of serving time in Amerikan prisons.
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@ Ellis Mickey
Yes, BN’s objectives are not self-driven. He is driven by the love and spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Thus, he does what he is able to do to expose Jewry’s cunning, duplicitous control and dominance within government, banking, media, the military, law enforcement, education, medicine, and more both in this country and elsewhere.
Well done, dear +BN.
You’re excellent article clearly shows that the Jew is in control.
It is almost unbelievable that in America there is no genuine freedom of speech or freedom of the press or even free enterprise (publishing and the business of PAID advertising which a billboard is) anymore.
You’ve amply proved that the Jew can interfere with, and shut down political speech and private businesses that they don’t like anytime they want, by economic blackmail, holding the political gun to someone’s head, or arranging even more dire things.
Using billboards is a great idea. This is something which could really work up into the scenario of “Dueling Billboards” if Americans had the will to do it.
That last link to NPR and the story of Frank Collin, head of the National Socialist Party of America, of whom the press had a 14 month field day about his organization’s plans to march in the predominantly Jewish town of Skokie, Illinois, which claimed the largest number of holocaust survivors.
In June of 1977, Skokie Jews get an injunction to prevent the march. Collins goes to the ACLU, and their Jewish lawyer, David Goldberger, has it overturned.
For over a year the battle rages, and it’s nightly news worldwide. From April 1977 through June of 1978, ABC, CBS, and NBC, bombarded us nightly with scenes of goose-stepping Illinois “Nazis,” Jews weeping and sobbing, and stories of the endless legal battles fought by Jewish ACLU lawyers defending the “Nazis,” and the right of Freedom of speech.
In June of 1978, after 15 months of legal battles, Collins lets Skokie Jews alone, and marches in Marquette park. A total of 12 Nazis show, and they battle with a couple of 60 yr old Holocaust survivors.
Basically, this event spawned the holohoax insanity we all endure today.
RJN family does know that Frank’s real name was, ahem, Francis Joseph Cohen?
Collins did all he could to conflate “White Power” with National Socialism. He said that “National Socialism is essentially White Unity.” He also pushed the 6,000,000 myth.
Collin’s downfall with the NSPA began with the revelation that his father, Max Simon Collin, was a Jew whose original surname had been “Cohen.”
In a narrative which can only be yet another demented holocaust fantasy spin-off, Max Cohen/Collin claimed to have been a prisoner at Dachau concentration camp, where Frank Collin was said to have been conceived. Was that before, or even more miraculously after, Frank’s father and mother were killed in the gas chambers?
While “Fuerher” of the NSPA, Frank Collin was arrested by Michigan police while having sex with a pair of 10-year-old boys.
These revelations led to his dismissal from the neo-Nazi movement.
A psychiatrist who interviewed Collin declared that he was “consumed by hatred for his father;” it was argued that Collin rejected his father by becoming a neo-Nazi and adopting and publicly espousing antisemitic beliefs.
Collin was convicted of child molestation and sent to Pontiac prison in 1979.
He served three years of a seven-year sentence. He came out a changed man…he became a editor of an archeological magazine, and then a witch.
Some great stuff happened after the Collins/Cohen tragi-comedy (read “just another evil Jewish hoax”) after 14 months of broadcast exposure by Jew-controlled TV companies.
In 1979 President Carter started the US Holocaust Commission.
Illinois the first state in the U.S. to require Holocaust education be included in all public elementary and high school curricula.
Jewish Hollywood awoke to its responsibilities and national calling to produce as many brain-washing, Gentile-fleecing, four hankie holocaust movies as possible.
We soon learn that 6,000,000 Jews were gassed, and then heard about it over and over again.
And the Shoah Business was born. It just goes to underscore the fact that the only ones who have true freedom of speech and their rights defended anymore in the Jewnited States are the Jews!
Great job filling in more pieces of the Big Picture, dear +BN.
God bless you, and everyone of RJN family.
IC XC
NI KA
Soon punishment for antisemitism will be the death penalty.
And antisemitism will be code language for Christian.
When the Jews took over the Soviet Union they passed a law making antisemitism a capital offense and soon Christians were dying by the millions.
Why do you think there are so many huge bill boards for porn stores on the interstate? I have never seen such a thing in other countries.
Satan is in charge!
Brother Nathanael,
You live over 700 more miles away from Los Angeles than I do, yet you know more about it than me as well, hah.
I just MIGHT have heard something about those billboards being around here though, but it also figures “they” would find some way to take em down sooner or later.
Keep fighting the good fight, BN.
-Walter
Indeed Satan is in charge.
He is omnipresent on the ballot, government, the temples, the mainstream media, at school and in the markets.
He is always looking for a chance to corrupt or hinder good people if any and encourage the wicked in their evil ways.
Resist the devil and he will flee from you.
First off, I want to say thanks to Brother Nathanael for, again, shining the Light of Truth on the tribe!
When I read this article, the first thing that sticks out in my mind is not so much that CBS Outdoor (maybe I should clarify I use that name under Fair Use) canceled their sign contracts, as this should surprise no one, but that non-jews actually want to support the Great Satan.
The group StandWithUs actually has posters showing Arabs (presumably Palestinians) with AK-variant rifles with the caption reading “Teaching Kids Violence Will Not Lead to Peace. Israel Seeks A Partner For Peace.”
If this isn’t one of the most laughable, preposterous, vile lies ever told, I’ll eat my hat.
Furthermore, what really strikes me about this story (and ones similar to it) is how so many Americans actually believe Israel is a true ally and would die to defend bastardous state.
I was listening to the Glen Beck radio program recently, and I was so depressed by what I heard: Beck was recounting the falsity that Obammy doesn’t support Israel, and how Republicans need to support Israel.
If anyone doesn’t think Obammy supports Israel, just look at how he’s toppled most every Arab leader with a military capable of posing a threat to israel: first Egypt, the Libya, now Syria, tomorrow, Iran.
Anyway, while I was listening to this drivel, I was reminded of something: the movie The Matrix (interestingly enough, made by jews) and the character Morpheus tells Neo that most people connected to the Matrix would DIE to protect the system, rather than save their own lives and the lives of their fellow man.
Well, my fellow “informed brothers and sisters,” the Jews ARE the Matrix! Their system of near-complete thought and speech control, coupled with their political power, has all but completely subverted all power in the United States.
Sadly, through the hijacking of Christianity by Cyrus Scofield, a previously “anti-semitic” America now has legions that would die for the tribe!
These people, although temporarily blinded, are still Americans. For the most part, especially with the youth, they CAN be saved!
The “war” that we must fight is one of education and exposure–we must expose the Jew wherever he is until he has no peace, no home, and every corner of the world recognizes his fraud, tyranny, and immoral infection on the societal fabric!
This “war” CAN and MUST be won, if we are to save our once-great Nation!
Brother Nathanael, and the few other honest voices crying in the wilderness give us all the ammunition we need to fight this war. In truth, if we look for it, the Jew, himself, gives it to us, if we just look between his lines.
Most Americans are reasonable people, and when confronted with the overwhelming evidence to something’s veracity, will act accordingly.
Proof of this principle is evidenced in every major war this country has fought (albeit, the American people were deceived by the Jew for the last few, but still, it proves the principle that Americans, when shown overwhelming evidence of what they believe is truth, they do act.)
All we must do is to continually be sure our evidence beyond reproach, which is quite easy to do in this day where every phone is also a camera and video recorder. The Jew can no longer disclaim ownership of his lies and actions!, thus making evidencing him all the easier.
The issue is that we ALL must play a part; we all must educate people–our family, friends, associates, acquaintances and more. Eventually, when enough people see the juden for what they are, we will restore this country!!
Always remember this: the Jew is such a cunning enemy of the White Race that no truly honest man can fathom the depths of their depravity and moral turpitude. No truly honest man could ever imagine the depths to which the Jew will go to insure his own supremacy!
Whereas Christianity abounds with martyrs, Jewry is replete with tales of false conversions for reasons as specious as profit! (See British PM Benjamin Disraeli).
Throughout history, Christians have laid down their lives for their brother and/or their faith; to the Jew, this is an anathema!
He will do ANYTHING to guard his worldly stockpile and expand it, too. The sooner we get our “blind” American brothers and sisters awake to the fact that this is the Jew, the quicker we can cast him out!
Lastly, always remember that most of the “blind” Americans out there are just that, blind. They are to be seen as potential allies, not enemies. Until awake, they cannot be trusted, but, they can all be potentially STRONG assets to the Cause!
Remember this verse from the Book of Jude (the whole Book of Jude is very apropos to the struggle in America against Jewry):
17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
[The ungodly Jews described]
18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
[Admonishment to the faithful]
20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
[MOST IMPORTANT–How to view those still “blind”]
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Thanks, again, Brother Nathanael, for all your hard work and effort! This, as always, is another outstanding article and expose! God Bless!
Frank DePinto
Citizens Concerned about Jews
7/19/2012
Bro. Nathanael,
Hooray again!!!
Personally, locally my letters-to-the-editor to the Jew-owned (Huesman, Holmberg, etc) Chattanooga Times Free Press have been censored for the last 3 years.
When they were printed, I was called an ‘anti-semitic’ at a recycling meeting in a city government building.
My environmental article, ‘the Call of Carbon,’ was almost censored by Jew deborah Levine/Holmberg because at that time one of my letters criticizing Israel, she said was a ‘threat to her god’ i.e. ‘jew-god,’ and she threatened not to print my environmental letter.
I retorted viciously, she recinded, and my environmental article was printed.
Thanks for exposing the latest Jew-lies in July.
I hate to be so optimistic in the face of such disgusting manipulation of the truth, but I think the Jews are getting desperate.
I admit, it’s hard to know where Amerikans stand on any issue or if they’re even smart enough to have opinions, but a lot of people I’ve met are onto the Jews and better yet, have had just about enough.
It’s also a fundamental law that the harder you try to bend the truth, the harder it slaps you in the face when it recoils. I think the Jews are learning this, AGAIN, not that they will ever change their evil ways.
They can control the government, their “committees” and “foundations” and Congress and the press and the judiciary and even the Church (Hagee, Robertson etc.) but somehow, people are waking up.
Maybe the sheer deafening noise level of all the lies is arousing people from their slumber. That’s the way it seems to me.
Either way, thanks for another notch on the tally sheet. We ARE keeping score…….
They had their Judaeolators even back then (the 4th century):
“I have said enough against those who say they are on our side but are eager to follow the Jewish rites….
By fasting now, the Jews dishonor the law and trample underfoot God’s commands because they are always doing everything contrary to his decrees.
When God wished them to fast, they got fat and flabby?
When God does not wish them to fast, they get obstinate and do fast; when he wished them to offer sacrifices. they rushed off to idols; when he does not wish them to celebrate the feast days, they are all eager to observe them.” – St. John Chrysostom
Northerntruthseeker has posted a very good article on yesterday’s bus bombing. Another Israeli false flag?
http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/
VIDEO: CNBC admits We’re all SLAVES to CENTRAL BANKERS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=efKchHKMb2k
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VIDEO: New EU president confirms New World Order desire (19Nov09)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXWeOa-FuyM&feature=player_embedded
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FREEDOM FIGHTERS IT’S TIME TO UNITE.
The AMERICAN “PEOPLE” have Gone from the most LOVED in the World to the most HATED in the World as a direct result of the WAR MONGERING JEWS.
MILITARY MEN are DUMB STUPID ANIMALS to be USED for FOREIGN POLICY — Quote from JEW Henry Kissinger.
YOUR OWN USA JEW GOVERNMENT IS THE ENEMY.
We do NOT want the JEW New World Order.
We do NOT want the JEW One World Bank.
We do NOT want the JEW one World Money.
We do NOT want the JEW One World Government Military Dictatorship.
We do NOT want GLOBALISM.
We do NOT want Multiculturalism.
We do NOT want JEW FEMA Camps.
We do NOT want JEW “PUPPET” Presidents.
We do NOT want the RICH men of the World to own all the property.
We want PRIVATE PROPERTY.
We do NOT want World Communism.
We do NOT want EXTREMELY DANGEROUS Nuclear Electricity Power Stations.
We want all those using or selling DEPLETED URANIUM to be prosecuted for war and Environmental CRIMES.
There is only ONE group of TERRORISTS in the World today and they are the WAR MONGERING JEWS.
WE DO NOT WANT TO BE JEW SLAVES.
FREEDOM FIGHTERS IT’S TIME TO UNITE.
Good one, Brother Nate!
Jewish math:
Free speech = “hate” speech
Great post, Snowy!
Very important VIDEO
PROPAGANDA | FULL ENGLISH VERSION (2012)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6NMr2VrhmFI#
Completely agreed with Arjan and Snowy Smith.
America. Your “freedom of speech” is better than in Canada or Germany to use a few examples. TRUST me you do NOT want to go to that level or worst.
Fight against this!
“And all the Amerikans who “love the Jewish people” will soon find not only GAGS in their mouths but the Jewish-enabled privilege of serving time in Amerikan prisons.””
The apostates described above who idolize all things Jewy/Israhell will only find gags placed in their mouths and thrown in FEMA camps AFTER they have helped their Synagogue of Satan buddies make war on and slaughter all of us “anti-semites.”
After the Scofield useful idiots have done their job helping making the world safe from the “Turban Headed Boogyman” and “anti-semitic Nazis,” then it will be their turn.
They will see the New Testament declared as hate speech and their churches shut down; they will soon realize that they were the ultimate prize saved for last.
Perhaps they will get to witness a re-do of 1917 and what the German soldiers saw when entering the Ukraine: Children nailed to barns, eyes gouged out, hands and feet cut off, and Judeo-Bolshevik ritual torture/murder far too sickening to reveal here.
These foolish Goyim have no concept of this kind of historic Jewish evil because they REFUSE to learn the truth about the past. They have already been sent a strong delusion and therefore they prefer to believe the Jewish lies and fairy tales that the Apostle Paul warned us about in the Book of Titus.
Some ARE INDEED waking up, but it is a remnant, and only a remnant it will be. It is our duty to struggle on through the frustration and countless defeats to help awaken those who are capable of seeing the Light of Truth which leads to wisdom and understanding.
LT
Whereas Christianity abounds with martyrs, Jewry is replete with tales of false conversions for reasons as specious as profit! (See British PM Benjamin Disraeli).
Throughout history, Christians have laid down their lives for their brother and/or their faith; to the Jew, this is an anathema!
@ LT Part 1
You have to specify which Christians, saying Christian is kind of out there — we don’t know if you are talking about Protestants, Catholics or Orthodox. From my own understanding they are various different denomination within Judaism.
Kind of like within Christianity, for example we Orthodox do not accept Catholicism since they dogmatically deviated from the truth and unilaterally introduced the filioque, “from the Son,” then tried to impose it on the rest of the Christian world. (Nothing against regular Catholics–it is the Vatican).
Saint Kosmas of Aetolia, who, with his simple teachings, used to warn the Orthodox Christians to “fear the pope,” because he was “the incarnation of the insidious figure of the ANTI-CHRIST.”
In the history of the human race there have been three principal falls: that of Adam, that of Judas, and that of the POPE.- St. Justin Popovich
@LT Part 2
The term filioque is Latin for “and from the son.” To support a particular set of philosophical principles, the Western (Roman Catholic) Church inserted this word/idea into the previously ecumenical Creed of the Holy Apostles – the Symbole of the Faith. In short, the interpolation altered the theology (doctrine of God).
According to this teaching the Holy Spirit as Divine Person has his procession both from the Father and from the Son.
The dogmatic teaching of the Roman Catholics, however, overturns the Apostolic Faith of the Church in the Triadic God, since according to the Evangelist John the Spirit of Truth “proceeds from the Father.” (John 15:26).
Moreover, the 3rd Ecumenical Synod through its president St Cyril of Alexandria, concerning the Symbol of Faith determined prohibitively that “οὐδενί ἐπιτρέπεται λέξιν ἀμεῖψαι τῶν ἐγκειμένων ἐκεῖσε ἤ μίαν γοῦν παραβῆναι συλλαβήν” (“It is not permitted to anyone to add or to subtract even one syllable” from these which were set forth in the Symbol of Faith).
All the subsequent Ecumenical Synods accepted the decisions of this 3rd Ecumenical Synod including the Pope of Rome until the Church of Rome added it in the 11th century.
It is evident, then, that the Roman Catholics – and by certain extension of Protestants who adopted the Filioque – have fallen away from the Apostolic Faith of the Church.
The teaching of the “Filioque” – that is, the procession of the Holy Spirit AND from the Son – is contrary to everything that Christ Himself taught about the Holy Spirit.
The entire chorus of Fathers, both in Synods and individually, regard Roman Catholicism as a heresy because apart from the Filioque, it produced a host of other fallacies, such as the primacy and the infallibility of the Pope, the unleavened bread (host), the fires of Purgatory, the immaculate conception of the Theotokos, created Grace, the purchasing of absolution (indulgences)… it has altered nearly all of the teaching and the practice pertaining to Baptism, Chrismation, the Divine Eucharist and the other Sacraments, and has converted the Church to a secular State.
Contemporary Roman Catholicism has deviated even further than the medieval Latins from the teaching of the Church, to the extent that it no longer comprises a continuance of the ancient Church of the West.
It has introduced a swarm of new exaggerations in its “Mariology,” such as the teaching that the Theotokos is a parallel redeemer (co-redemptrix) of the human race.
It has reinforced the “Charismatic Movement” of Pentecostal (supposedly Spirit-centered) groups. It has adopted eastern (Asian) religious practices and methods of prayer and meditation.
It has introduced additional innovations into Divine worship, such as dances and musical instruments. It has shortened and essentially ruined the Divine Liturgy.
With respect to Ecumenism it has set down the bases for a unification of all religions (panthriskeia) with its Second Vatican Council, by recognizing “spiritual life” in the people of other religions.
Dogmatic minimalism has led it to a diminishing of moral requirements, on account of the bond between dogma and morality, resulting in the moral failures of leading clergymen and an increase in moral deviations such as homosexuality and pedophilia among clergymen.
By continuing to support “Uniatism” – that caricature of Orthodoxy with which it victimizes and proselytizes faithful – the Vatican is sabotaging the dialogue and is contradicting its supposedly sincere intentions for union.
Generally speaking, after the Second Vatican Council there has been a radical change in Catholicism and a turn towards Protestantism, and even an adoption of various “spiritual” movements of the “New Age.”
According to Saint Simeon of Thessaloniki, the Mystagogue, “Papism” caused more damage to the Church than ALL the heresies and schisms combined.
I found the NPR article (Brother Nathanael’s last link) to be quite enlightening.
In the 2nd paragraph of Interview Highlights Waldron says the following:
“There are two important issues here. One is the content of the speech itself. Forgive me if I use bad words, but people are saying, ‘Fags must die,’ or that sort of thing on their posters, and certainly under the laws that I propose and the laws that exist IN OTHER REGIMES, that sort of talk would land people with a prosecution.
“There’s further the question of time, place and manner, having to do not just with the abusive manner in which the speech is performed, but also with the intrusiveness on public funerals. And I believe that raises other important issues that would not be dealt with under a hate speech [law].”
Note the words I emphasized! Regime can be said to mean this: “A series of steps to be carried out or goals to be accomplished.” That makes his thinking pretty clear, doesn’t it? I pray their impudence will be their undoing!!
Thank you Brother Nathanael for all you do. May our Lord’s strength and wisdom be yours in abundance.
Hi Bro. Nathanael & everyone,
Been a while since I’ve been to website and I need to catch up.
Another great expose of the Zionist-Jew World Order re: Marxist, Trotskyist communism.
I have to agree that freedom of speech is under attack…just remember what happened to OWS. Need I say more?
Now how about something to make you sit up and think:
Within the last 24 hours or so an assassination attempt was made on Hillary Clinton while en route between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
According to Veterans Today Senior editor, Gordon Duff, and confirmed by reports from within Israhell, a white Citroen DS, French car built in Israhell pulled up along side the convoy and opened up on Clinton’s vehicle, with multiple automatic gunfire, Clinton’s vehicle would have been either a Chevy Tahoe or israhell built Toyota Land Cruiser.
Either would be fully armored against just such an attack.
The Citroen DS is essentially a plastic car with a 1 litre diesel engine. This has been confirmed from multiple sources from within Israhell as well as Reuters.
According to the VT article, normal security procedures would have prevented any vehicle from approaching Clinton’s car within 200 meters. Additionally Clinton would have had an Apache helicopter as air support while in open road conditions.
Now you can read into this story further at Veterans Today website:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/
Nothing is adding up here.
Is this Nuttyahoo’s attempt at starting a war with Iran, never mind Syria…they’re in cahoots. What this does teach us is that the Zionists will stop at nothing to further their own evil goals.
If the assassination had been successful, it would have been blamed on Iran and the Amerikan-Zionist presstitutes would be screaming and foaming at the mouth about the need to attack Iran.
False flag operations are a known method of fomenting war against others such as the invasion of Lebanon 2 years ago.
1) This story is being covered up by the MSM is Amerika.
2) This is a Mossad operation as the White Citroen DS was allowed to escape. How did that happen?
3) The Zionists so hell-bent on a war with Iran they will go to such extreme attempts as this.
This tells us the Zionists will do anything including murdering their own to further the cause of Zionist control over the Middle East. It doesn’t matter who they use.
It won’t matter for much longer as Israhell is disintegrating under the weight of the Zionist ideology.
See Ya!
Oh yeah, there is also another article of an attack on an Israhell Air Force officer by 3 conscripted members of the Air Force.
Very interesting….
KathJ says at, 10:59PM… “and the Shoa business was born”, etc.
And as even some Jewish comedians have said, “there’s no business like Shoa business.”
Americans truly are some of the stupidest people on earth.
Brother Nathanael,
You have once again come through with a hard-hitting article that should be read by every single person in America.
Sadly, that probably won’t happen.
Freedom of Speech is something each of us has been raised to believe is part of our inalienable rights as American citizens; a right granted us by God, honored by our founding fathers and protected by the Constitution and our Bill of Rights.
And it’s all a BIG LIE.
Our constitution and the Bill of Rights evidently were trashed in 1871, when a de facto government was created in Washington DC as a private, for Profit Corporation run by The Crown City of London, owned by the Bank of England, which of course means it’s owned by the Rothschild banksters. Yes. Jews.
In 1871 those filthy PIGS incorporated Washington DC under the legal corporate name ‘THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA’ in order to deceive the people.
That corporation is NOT this nation’s constitutional government and does not have the legal right to claim power over a single one of us UNLESS WE GIVE THEM OUR CONSENT TO DO SO. Or that’s what the law seems to say.
According to the de facto corporation in place in the District of Columbia, you have NO freedom of speech guarantee because by becoming a citizen of Washington DC and their corporate lie, you gave away your inalienable right to freedom of speech in exchange for the “privilege” of speaking that they have, up to now, granted you.
I’m in the same boat, and so is everyone in the USA who is reading this.
According to THEIR statutes, codes and policies, (all written in the legalese of maritime/admiralty law) they can take away your “privilege” to exercise your freedom of speech anytime they decide they want to!
Do you think what I’m saying is nuts? Well that’s okay, when I first read a similar statement I thought the person writing it was a whack job too.
So I went to youtube and did a search on the “District of Columbia Act of 1871” and found more than enough information there to convince me that the whackos were onto something.
And like a dog on stink, I’ve been on an intense search to track down the truth ever since…
“When” you might ask, “did I ever consent to have my right to freedom of speech taken away?”
Well, I found out you can blame your own Mother for that one!
Evidently your mother (and mine) foolishly consented to signing your birth certificate, which means (according to our masters in Washington DC) that she literally gave you away as a foundling child the day you were born, and according to the government, when she did that, she gave her consent to make you a ward of their corporate state!
Since 1933, every single woman that has given birth in the USA and signed a birth certificate has joyfully given away her children.
According to their laws, that birth certificate with your name in all capital letters defines you as a corporate entity (i.e. property) which was given away at birth to become the PROPERTY OF THE STATE!
Let me repeat that: According to their filthy maritime/admiralty laws, THEY OWN YOU. Literally.
Your birth certificate, my birth certificate, our children’s birth certificates and our grandchildren’s birth certificates has been sold on the commodities market as “proof of collateral” against the national debt! And they’ve been doing this since 1933!
Yes, brothers and sisters, you too were sold over the commodities market as if you were nothing more than just another pork belly. We all were.
Now, if you think I’ve just fallen off the deep end for saying this, do a youtube search on “Strawman” or simply Google it.
I’m pretty certain you are going to come up with a list of same videos and articles that I’ve already read and seen.
I just found this out in the last week, and right now I am so angry, so SEETHING WITH RAGE inside, that it’s probably not safe to even talk to me until I cool off a bit.
I think most women consider the birth of their children SACRED. I know I certainly did.
And the #@%!@ government TOOK THAT AWAY FROM ME! And made a fool out of me while they were doing it!
I honestly feel as if I’ve just been raped.
I’m still reading the articles, and still telling myself “This simply can not be true!”
But I’m afraid it is because people are silting the exact government codes and statutes ver batem, and even though it’s a nightmare, it sure looks like the truth to me.
Would you folks please do a search on “District of Columbia Act of 1871” and “Strawman” and tell me if this is real or not?
Wonder if they’ll back down (the group the put the billboards up)…
Americans need to FIGHT BACK VIGOROUSLY.
A TINY TOWN, DUGGER, INDIANA has just been told they have to take a cross down that was erected 2 years ago with the blessing of the Town Council.
Someone tipped off Americans United for Church and State and they have told the little town that they have to take it down.
I’m in Atlanta and just called the pastor, Shaun Farris. Please pray for this town and for the pastor. I told him to FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT.
Google Dugger Indiana and Cross.
God bless~
***Even an untutored Catholic like myself can deconstruct this in less than four minutes:
“Kind of like within Christianity, for example we Orthodox do not accept Catholicism since they dogmatically deviated from the truth and unilaterally introduced the filioque, “from the Son,” then tried to impose it on the rest of the Christian world. (Nothing against regular Catholics–it is the Vatican).”
***Isn’t that what protestants are always saying? The concept of the filioque was around a long time before the Great Schism – and even some of the Greek patriarchs accepted it.
***It doesn’t take a PhD to see the filioque’s imprimatur within Holy Writ: Matt 10:20, Luke 24:49, Jn 15:26, 16:7, 20:22, Acts 2:33, Tit 3:6… etc, etc….
***Then we have: Rom 8:9, Gal 4:6, Phil 1:19, etc, etc….
“Saint Kosmas of Aetolia, who, with his simple teachings, used to warn the Orthodox Christians to “fear the pope,” because he was “the incarnation of the insidious figure of the ANTI-CHRIST.”
***And the proof of this bold claim is what? That Cosmas is today honored by the Turks? There’ve been bad Popes – but a great many of them have been saints.
“In the history of the human race there have been three principal falls: that of Adam, that of Judas, and that of the POPE.- St. Justin Popovich.”
***Then Justin has an argument with this: “Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I found my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Matt 16:18
“The dogmatic teaching of the Roman Catholics, however, overturns the Apostolic Faith of the Church in the Triadic God, since according to the Evangelist John the Spirit of Truth “proceeds from the Father. (John 15:26).”
***Of course He does. He also proceeds from the Son. One doesn’t deny the other.
“It has introduced a swarm of new exaggerations in its “Mariology,” such as the teaching that the Theotokos is a parallel redeemer (co-redemptrix) of the human race.”
***This is false. “Co-redeemer” is a concept, not a dogma. One is perfectly free to deny it.
“According to Saint Simeon of Thessaloniki, the Mystagogue, “Papism” caused more damage to the Church than ALL the heresies and schisms combined.”
***”Papism” is what stopped the Turks from overrunning all of Europe – like they did the Orthodox areas of Europe. Anyway, protestants have always felt *much* more of a kinship with the Orthodox than they do Catholics.
Still, I’m a Catholic who financially supports Brother Nate – and I remember him in my prayers. I suspect there are other Catholics here who do the same.
Another great article Brother!
If you have the time, would you consider explaining how the modern Jewish person traces his or her Jewish ancestral decent matrilineally and how the True God, of the Bible, defines Jewish ancestral decent patrilineally?
Also, from my research it seems as though an overwhelming majority of the people who consider themselves Jewish today have absolutely no maternal or paternal relation to the Hebrews of the tribe of Judah or Benjamin-as most of them are actually Khazarian.
It is exactly like the verse Revelation 3:9 “I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars–I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.”
If you could expand on this topic, it would be great thanks.
@Citizenfitz
You forgot the papal pronouncements that we Christians are the little brothers of the Jews (since the “Jews are our older brothers” who don’t need the Christ to be saved).
John McCain CONFRONTED about USS Liberty on Memorial Day 2012:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2d0CKXy8HQ
More detailed video.
I want everyone to weigh in on this and support me or I will tell everyone that you’re anti-ME2.
Here’s the deal: I created some stone tablets and then buried them in my backyard. On the tablets I stated that God gave my neighbors’ house to me.
I dug up the tablets and then proceeded to move in to my neighbor’s house. I showed them the tablets and told them “Look God gave this house to me. It clearly shows this on the tablets.” Well of course everyone says I’m crazee but if I keep repeating this phrase “God gave this house to me” that will make it true.
Now what I’m asking is that the former inhabitants of the house be declared as terrorists and that everyone supports me in hating them (it’s the patriotic thing to do) because I’m the only democracy on my block.
I voted and came to a unanimous decision to evict these squatters from the house that God gave me. So I did use a fair vote and I was unanimous in my decision.
So what do you say? Aren’t I chosen?
Friends,
I consider you all my friends, since as many of you know, I am a former Jew who abandoned the Jewish belief system (Judaism is not a religion because the Jews worship GOLD, not GOD) and turned my life over to our Blessed Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Despite my tainted ancestry and background, you have welcomed me into the Body of Christ and have made me feel as if I am one of you … which I am.
I despise the slimy Christ-hating Yids, whose only goals in life, as dictated in their Talmud, are to tear down Jesus Christ and His Church, and to put the world under Jewish control, and make every non-Jew a slave of the kikes.
LT is absolutely right when he writes: “Always remember this: the Jew is such a cunning enemy of the White Race that no truly honest man can fathom the depths of their depravity and moral turpitude. No truly honest man could ever imagine the depths to which the Jew will go to insure his own supremacy!
“Whereas Christianity abounds with martyrs, Jewry is replete with tales of false conversions for reasons as specious as profit! (See British PM Benjamin Disraeli).”
LT is correct, because Jews lie with abandon to further their evil ends. However, there are a few former Jews, like Brother Nathanael and myself, who have come to realize the evils of Judaism, decided we could not be a part of it, and turned our lives and our souls over to the Lord Jesus.
Which brings me to the question of, how will Americans, and Christians generally, figure out who are the sincere converted Jews and who are still of the predominant Christ-hating variety?
It must be apparent that if Christians take matters into their own hands, and take action, peacefully or not, to get rid of the criminal Jews who are destroying White civilization, there would still be many problems to overcome.
One of the biggest is, how would they be able to determine with precision just who is a Jew and who is not?
Of course, leaders of criminal organizations like the ADL, SCLC, Communist Party and AIPAC would be easily identifiable and would be arrested and deported immediately.
Also, prominent rabbis and Jewish leaders who are well-known in the community because of their anti-Christian activities could be readily picked up.
And the kike millionaires and billionaires who have swindled and cheated non-Jews through their control of business, retail, news media, law and finance, would certainly be well-known and would have a hard time evading the justifiable anger of the people — unless they all flew to IsraHELL on chartered planes.
Think about it: Jewry is not so easily defeated just by arresting its leaders. Every Yid is part of the same conspiracy of the godless, atheistic, pharisees that murdered Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, more than 2,000 years ago.
Jews are by nature greedy and selfish. It’s part of their makeup. Some would say they can’t help themselves, but that doesn’t make them any more likeable.
Some Jews could be identified by their appearance — the dark, malice-filled eyes, the bushy eyebrows, thick lips, hook noses, curly hair. But other Jews cannot be picked out of a crowd, they look like White people, probably because their ancestors intermarried with Christians and over the years they lost that Jewish look.
In fact, did you ever notice when you go into a men’s locker room in an athletic club (ladies, maybe you’d better skip this part), how many American men are circumcised?
Most of them are not Jewish but yet, their penises are clipped. How come?
Well, did you ever consider that Jew-doctors (Jews dominate the medical profession just like they do banking, law, government, etc.), started circumcising Christian babies as a way of protecting their fellow Members of the Tribe.
They don’t even have to get the permission of the parents, most of the time it’s just done as a matter of course.
See, if every male baby is circumcised, the Jews can’t be picked out.
It used to be that in Europe (maybe it’s still that way), if people wanted to find out if a Jew was trying to infiltrate their neighborhood, they would simply pull down his pants and look at his genitals. And if he was circumcised, well, he was a Jew for sure.
But here in America you can’t do that because virtually every male is circumcised. So it’s impossible to pick out the Jew-boys by that method, and of course it doesn’t work at all with the Jew-girls.
I’m not sure the fed-up Christians would find the Jews, except maybe by confiscating synagogue records and finding out who is a member there. That would uncover some of the slimy breed, but certainly not all.
It is well-known that Anti-Christ Jews are working overtime to destroy Christ and His Church and bring about the triumph of Jewry.
But identifying more than a handful of the Jew-vermin would seem to be a difficult and perhaps impossible task.
@ Glory B.
Re: Circumcision
Orthodox Jews do not wish to be served food prepared by uncircumcised Goyim or have their hair cut by an uncircumcised barber.
I have known Jews who refuse to eat meat prepared by kosher meat markets that hire Goyim and will even travel 200 miles if necessary to purchase elsewhere.
I know of a Jew who insisted upon knowing if a certain barber was cut.
Despite all the propaganda and media reports which insist otherwise, there is no significant advantage for circumcised males when it comes to avoiding the transmission of AIDS. In addition, females are at greater risk of being infected with AIDS if their partner is circumcised.
http://health.howstuffworks.com/diseases-conditions/infectious/circum-aids-female.htm
http://www.circumstitions.com/HIV.html
Glory B.
True it is difficult to sus out a Jew but please remember by their fruits shall you know them.
Colorado Shooter Was Camp Counselor for Jewish Big Brothers and Sisters
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/colorado-shooter-was-camp-counselor-for-jewish-big-brothers-and-sisters/2012/07/21/
Colorado movie shooter is grandson of decorated military man
http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/07/21/news/doc500ac6e68e0be341647294.txt
“You forgot the papal pronouncements that we Christians are the little brothers of the Jews, since the “Jews are our older brothers” who don’t need the Christ to be saved.”
Au contraire! See this:
http://citizenfitz09.blogspot.com/2012/04/apostate-pope-slams-heretical-priests.html
And this: http://citizenfitz09.blogspot.com/2011/08/nuchurch.html
@Citizenfitz
That’s nice, but I quite don’t understand what are you “deconstructing” and why?
Benedict XVI:
“The Jews are OUR FATHERS in the faith.”
(…) On another issue, asked whether he would have signed the decree lifting the excommunication from the four Lefebvrian Bishops if he had known Bishop Williamson denied the existence of the Nazi gas chambers, Pope Benedict replied, “No…”
See:
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=196996
Glory B. July 21, 2012 @ 7:15 am
“But identifying more than a handful of the Jew-vermin would seem to be a difficult and perhaps impossible task.”
Seems the thing to do would be to apply what they taught American GI’s. Kill them all and let Yahweh sort them out.
Citizenfitz,
Dear friend, the so called “Catholics” are out from the Church of Christ which is ONE the Holy Orthodox and Apostolic.
There are many Orthodox saints in Rome and the West but before the schism. After and until now the Catholic Church is collaborating actively with the Zionist Jews to destroy the Orthodox Christianity the one Church of Christ.
The process began long ago when the crusaders destroyed Constantinople, killing and pillaging throughout the Byzantine Roman Empire which is the main cause of the falling of the New Rome into Turkish hands.
Later with the papal eulogies, Zionist NATO bombed Serbian Orthodox churches in Kosovo and elsewhere. Now the Vatican says nothing about the killing of Orthodox Christians in Syria.
It is not only the filioque issue, the pope has proclaimed himself not a sinner and the only representative of Saint Peter and Christ a man which is OUT OF THE BODY OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST which is one and Orthodox and the list goes on and on.
Please if you want to see the numerous heresies into which have fallen the Catholics since the Great Schism, read what all of the Fathers in the Orthodox Church say about this. Go down the list and pray to God to show you the TRUTH.
That’s why in the east we have a proverb from before 1453 about not compromising with heresies in the West — “Better under the Turkish turban than under the Pope’s tiara” when the Byzantine rulers attempted to force a church union between Rome and New Rome.
Think about why the Holy Fire in Jerusalem falls ONLY in the Orthodox Pascha (a moveable feast) every year showing WHERE IS THE ONE APOSTOLIC CATHOLIC CHURCH.
with love.
@ Glory B.
Thank you for your candid remarks again. Always nice to hear from you.
As a former Jew, I’m sure you’ve suffered much of “this world” for taking the bold steps years ago to reject and leave Jewry.
Sure wish that there were many more former Jews like you and Brother Nathanael as so few Jews are willing to do the right thing by tossing their faith (or whatever you want to call it) on the pile of rubbish where it belongs.
Please continue posting. Yours are some of the best remarks on this RJN blog. Sincerely, tgm
Ethnic Social Networks & Wall St
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PfynnAQKLG0
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EXCELLENT VIDEO !!!!
Alex Jones admits he’s a fake Christian:
http://citizenfitz09.blogspot.com/
“That’s nice, but I quite don’t understand what are you “deconstructing” and why?”
Oh well….
Gabriel, I’m not defending *the Pope* – especially this one… or the four before him.
I defend the *office* of the pope – the Bishop of Rome. It’s a separate issue.
Dear citizenfitz,
There is no four minute solution to the Filioque issue, and the four minute “deconstruction” with proof-texts falls flat.
The typical Western Christian approach is to think that language defines theology. Theology defines language, and language serves this task of definition poorly, and is what St. Vincent of Lerins is all about.
We know that Vincent abandoned a career in the Roman military to become a monk at the great Monastery of Lérins, located on a small island just off the Mediterranean coast from the modern city of Cannes.
A contemporary refers to Saint Vincent as deeply holy and as outstanding for his great learning and for the eloquence of his writing.
As with Saint John Cassian, another Father of the Orthodox West, certain modern commentators, particularly Roman Catholics, derogatorily call Saint Vincent of being a “Semi-Pelagian.”
However, of this he is accused only because he opposed the theological hyperbole of Saint Augustine of Hippo in dealing with the subject of the importance of God’s Grace in man’s conversion.
Sts John Cassian, Hilary of Arles and Vincent of Lerins joined in the rebuttal of Saint Augustine. These Saints found quite a number of issues in Augustine’s teachings which needed refutation ~
~ his doctrine of sin and grace
~ his assertion that the will is in total bondage
~ his teaching on the irresistibility of grace
~ predestinarian thought
These Saints did agree with Saint Augustine partially, concerning the seriousness of sin. But in their minds the doctrine of predestination was new and alien to the ancient and catholic Faith of the Church.
It conflicts with the Tradition and it is deeply dangerous because it renders all human efforts ineffectual.
In opposition to Saint Augustine, Cassian and the Western monks taught that while a sickness is transmitted by Adam’s sin, human free will still exists and it has not been entirely obliterated, but crippled.
Divine grace is indeed indispensable for salvation, but it does not of necessity need to precede a free human choice, because, despite the weakness of the human will, the will can and does take the initiative toward God.
In other words, Cassian is saying (as do the Orthodox today) that divine grace and human free will must work together for salvation ~ synergy.
In opposition to the stark and cruel predestinarianism of the Bishop of Hippo, Cassian upheld the doctrine of God’s universal and all-encompassing will to save all humankind and not just an arbitrairily chosen portion of it.
Saint Vincent is entirely Orthodox in his teachings, but then Catholic commentators and polemicists have routinely called the Eastern Orthodox “Semi-Pelagians” as well, because, like St. John Cassian, we reject Augustine’s doctrines of predestination and irresistible grace.
We Orthodox remember that when Saint Photios of Constantinople began to read Augustine in Greek translation he found these and other ideas so heretical that he assumed, very charitably, that Augustine cannot have been responsible for them. He thought that heretics in later centuries had corrupted Saint Augustine’s text.
Blessed Augustine was very weak in theology and many of his opinions and formulations are erroneous because he overly relied on Platonic metaphysics, but in his writings he essentially admitted that his work was speculative, exploratory, full of errors, and his hope and confidence towards the end of his life was that others would correct them.
There are those in Orthodoxy who argue that Saint Augustine (†430) wrote a number of things inconsistent with the consensus of the Fathers, especially with regard to sin and human guilt before God and the nature of Grace.
This is partly because distortions and overstatements of certain among his theological precepts by Medieval and Reformation thinkers starting some six centuries later have been unfairly attributed to the Saint himself.
In fact, though, one would be hard-pressed to find in the writings of St. Augustine evidence of an intentional distortion of the Church’s teachings or signs of tenacious resistance to correction by his contemporaries.
Indeed, Pope Vigilius [†555], in reconciling himself to the decisions of the Fifth Ecumenical Synod, invoked the memory, among “…our Fathers,” of the “blessed Augustine” for his willingness to retract and correct various among his “writings” and “sayings” (“Decretal Letter,” The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, 2nd series, Vol. XIV).
Blessed Augustine is a saint because he was a great shepherd, pastor and preacher in very difficult and trying times of instability in Roman Africa, particularly in preparing his people to face the threat of the Vandal invasions, and is honored for his brilliant labors against Pelagianism.
His spiritual works are marked by profound personal piety, humility, a spirit of contrition, an overwhelming love for God and zeal for the Gospel, and a relentless deference to the teaching authority of the Church: all traits of spiritual enlightenment.
Anyway, St. Vincent is remembered today because of his work Commonitorium or A Commonitory. This work is a compendium of rules by which a believer may distinguish theological truth from error.
The title Commonitorium means that the work is intended as a memory aid, a work that one may consult quickly for the purpose of refreshing one’s memory, as the Saint himself notes in his introductory comments.
In his great work, the Saint tells us that we may discover the truth first through reading Holy Scripture, for that is the basis of everything. Yet, he points out, men may differ in their interpretation of Holy Scripture.
How may we know which interpretation is the correct one? We know by consulting the writings of authorities within the Church, the great Saints and Church Fathers, the dogmas and canons of the Ecumenical Councils (prior to 1054) and this we do carefully, not relying on the opinion of just one person.
Let’s take Orthodox Saint Vincent of Lerins and his famous maxim, the Vincentian Canon, by which he hoped to be able to differentiate between true and false tradition: quod ubique, quod semper, quod ab omnibus credituni est (“what has been believed everywhere, always, and by all”).
He believed that the primary source of Christian truth was Holy Scripture as the words of God’s Revealed Faith and that the authority of the Church (at that time, the Church meant the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church which extended from Ireland to Persia and Armenia) was to be invoked to guarantee the correct interpretation of Scripture.
Although considered a saint by Catholics, they invariably tag him with the label, “a proponent of Semi-Pelagianism,” because he opposed the erroneous Augustinian opinion and model of Grace.
As St. Vincent counseled when it comes to a new dogma (and the Filioque is still considered an innovation by the East), first, we ask ourselves, is this belief held throughout the Church, universally, starting with Christ, and the Apostles and the Evangelists?
No. It is not. The filioque issue first emerged in 587 in Spain, and was a local ecclesiastical issue. The council of Toledo decreed that the filioque be inserted the Symbol of Faith with all good intentions as a liturgical polemic against the Arian heresy in Spain.
Second, did our Fathers in the Faith, the Orthodox of past ages, hold unanimously (or near unanimously) such a belief?
No, they did not.
Third, does this belief in the Filioque doctrine enjoy the unanimous (or nearly unanimous) approval of all Church authorities? Definitely not!
Not in the days that it was originally formulated, not ever in the East, and not until after the 1054 Schism did the West more widely propagate the Filioque, and that only sporadically.
It was only in 1014, at the request of the German King Henry II who had come to Rome to be crowned Emperor and was surprised at the different custom in force there (neither form of the Creed had been in use in the Roman rite for two centuries), that Pope Benedict VIII, who owed to Henry his restoration to the papal throne after usurpation by Antipope Gregory VI, had the Creed, with the addition of Filioque, sung at Mass in Rome for the first time.
In some other places Filioque was incorporated in the Creed even later: at Paris seemingly not even by 1240, 34 years before the Second Council of Lyon, defined that the Holy Spirit “proceeds eternally from the Father and from the Son, not as from two principles but from a single principle, not by two spirations but by a single spiration”.
Since then the Filioque phrase has been included in the Creed throughout the Latin Rite except where Greek is used in the liturgy, although it was never adopted by the uniate Eastern Catholic Churches.
So, before addressing the verses you listed let me ask this question, dear citizenfitz (And I love your site, btw):
Where in Scripture are the Lord’s precise words “Who proceeds from the Father and Me” (or “the Son?”) or any other verse which explicitly supports the Catholic dogma that the Holy Spirit proceeds, or orginates from both the Father and the Son?
Our Lord Jesus Christ spoke these words in the clearest and most precise way: “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he shall testify of me:” (John 15:26).
Transliteration from Greek with key words — “When and comes [elthe] the Comforter [parakletos] whom I will send [pempo] to you from the Father the Spirit of Truth who from the Father proceeds [ekporeuetai] that One will witness concerning Me.”
Examining the key words, we find:
~ elthe — the active voice of ~erchomai~, meaning ‘to come from one place to another (used of persons arriving), to appear, make one’s appearance, come before the public’
~ parakletos — in the widest sense, a helper, succourer, aider, assistant. More specifically, one who pleads another’s cause before a judge, a pleader, defence counsellor, legal assistant, an advocate
~ pempo — ‘to dispatch’, ‘to send’, ‘to thrust in’
~ ekporeuetai is derived from ek + poreuomai; ek- is a preposition denoting origin as in ‘from’, or ‘out of,’ the point from whence the motion or action proceeds; and ~poreuomai means‘to traverse,’ ‘to travel’
Thus, the most key word of the passage, ~ekporeutai / ekporeuomai~ refers to the Holy Spirit’s point of origin.
Since that origin is ‘from all eternity’ (i.e. outside of time, before time began), it refers to the Holy Spirit’s eternal origin and not to His temporal mission (His being sent, dispatched, thrust into the world in time).
While with respect to God’s work in the world, or Economy, the Son will give or send the Spirit from the Father, with respect to His Divinity, the Spirit originates or proceeds from the Father alone: The Spirit receives His eternal existence only from the Father.
In precise conformity with Christ’s own words, and which the Church of Rome adhered to for 700 years until the 11th century, the Nicene-Constantinople Creed confesses belief “in the Holy Spirit, the Lord and giver of life, who proceeds from the Father,” and which the Patriarch of Rome had ratified and then reaffirmed at all seven Ecumenical Councils (and also the eighth Ecumenical Council, which Rome two centuries later repudiated).
“I will send the Holy Spirit [into this world in time]” is not the same as “the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father [from all eternity].”
As a summary of where Eastern Orthodoxy is coming from, in the 4th century a polarity developed between the Eastern and Western Christians in their respective understandings of the Trinity.
In the West God was understood primarily in terms of one essence (the Trinity of Persons being conceived as an irrational truth found in revelation); in the East the tri-personality of God was understood as the primary fact of Christian experience.
For most of the Greek Fathers, it was not the Trinity that needed theological proof but rather God’s essential unity. The Cappadocian Fathers (Gregory of Nyssa, Gregory of Nazianzus, and Basil of Caesarea) were even accused of being tri-theists because of the personalistic emphasis of their conception of God as one essence in three hypostases (the Greek term hypostasis was the equivalent of the Latin substantia and designated a concrete reality).
For Greek theologians, this terminology was intended to designate the concrete New Testamental revelation of the Son and the Spirit, as distinct from the Father. Their theology and formulations began with the facts of Scripture as revealed.
Essentially, polarization of the Eastern and the Western concepts of the Trinity is at the root of the Filioque dispute.
The Latin word Filioque (“and from the Son”) was added to the Nicene Creed in Spain in the 6th century. By affirming that the Holy Spirit proceeds not only “from the Father” (as the original creed proclaimed) but also “from the Son,” the Spanish councils intended to condemn Arianism by reaffirming the Son’s divinity.
Later, however, the addition became an anti-Greek battle cry, especially after Charlemagne (9th century) made his claim to rule the Roman Empire.
The addition was finally accepted in Rome under German pressure. It found justification in the framework of Western conceptions of the Trinity; the Father and the Son were viewed as one God in the act of “spiration” of the Spirit.
The Byzantine theologians opposed the addition, first on the ground that the Western Church had no right to change the text of an ecumenical creed unilaterally and, second, because the Filioque clause implied the reduction of the divine persons to mere relations (“the Father and the Son are two in relation to each other, but one in relation to the Spirit”).
For the Eastern Orthodox, just as it was for the first 1,000 years in the West with certain exceptions, the Father alone is the origin of both the Son and the Spirit. Patriarch Photius (9th century) was the first Orthodox theologian to explicitly spell out the Greek opposition to the Filioque concept, but the debate continued throughout the Middle Ages.
On to your verses:
— Matthew 10:20: Not the same context. When the disciples bear witness to Jesus, the Spirit will speak through them and they will not be defeated, though they may be persecuted, even martyred.
The work of the disciples in advancing the Kingdom of God is accompanied and empowered by the Spirit, who always accomplishes His purposes.
Nor does this verse prove the filioque, and in fact, tends to disprove it, with the term indicative of the Father as the source–“Spirit of the Father.” He does not say “Spirit of the Father and of Me (the Son).”
— Luke 24:49: “Behold, I [Jesus Christ] send the Promise of My Father upon you (Joel 2:28); but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high.” Endued with power from on high means filled with the Holy Spirit, which occurs on Pentecost.
This verse does not prove the Latin Catholic dogma that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. It says the Son will send the Promise [of the Holy Spirit] of His Father as spoken by the Prophet Joel upon the Apostles. The Promise originates with the Father, sent by the Son.
— John 16:7: The verse is part of the Lord’s longer discourse to his disciples, and belongs to the context of the Work of the Holy Spirit among the disciples which Christ describes from 16:5-13.
The word sorrow means “extreme grief, leading to a state of despondency [severe depression],” which is a sinful passion. This sin is also constantly referred to in the writing of the Desert Fathers, and St. John Chrysostom writes,” Great is the tyranny of despondency.”
Even when the world hates true Christians, they must not become despondent, but take comfort from the Holy Spirit (vv. 5-15).
Christ next says that it is to the disciples’ advantage that He goes away because the Holy Spirit, the Helper, the Comforter, the Paraclete will come.
— John 16:8-11: Through the illumination of the Holy Spirit, the world will be convicted, that is proved wrong and judged about:
1) sin–the ultimate sin is not to believe in Jesus as God and man, crucified and resurrected;
2) righteousness–a right relationship with God, possible only through Christ, risen ascended, and righteous before God;
3) judgement–all who reject Christ, and are under the sway of the devil, will be given the same penalty their ruler has already received.
However, 16:7 does not support the Filioque in its wording. It says, yet again, only that Christ will send the Holy Spirit (just a few minutes earlier, Christ has already stated to the Apostles that the Spirit of truth proceeds from the Father), and not that the Holy Spirit proceeds from Himself as well as the Father.
— John 20:22: Nothing in this verse states or implies that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, or changed the meaning of Christ’s plain words in John 15:26. In fact, it is a reaffirmation of the “Promise of the Father” which Jesus Christ is mediating.
Christ breathed on His disciples, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, the are retained.”
These words of Christ are among the scriptural foundations of the sacraments of the holy orders.
Through the grace of the consecration and empowerment of the Apostles by the Lord by the Holy Pneuma (Breath, Spirit), and through their ordination of others to continue the apostolic mission, Christ’s own Holy Priesthood is communicated to the bishops and priests of the Church.
— Acts 2:33 The age of the Kingdom of the revealed tri-unitarian God begins with the Ascension of Christ into the heavens, His enthronement at the right hand of God the Father, and the subsequent outpouring of the Holy Spirit by the Father as was promised in Joel 2:28.
The actual ‘Nicene Creed’, the Symbol of Faith of the Church articulated by the First Ecumenical Council at Nicaea in A.D. 325, was composed of over 300 bishops in assembly from all over the Christian world from Britannia to Armenia and Persia, not including priests, deacons and laity in attendance, did not go into as much detail with regard to the Holy Spirit. Constantine had invited all 1800 bishops of the Christian church (about 1000 in the east and 800 in the west), but a smaller number attended.
The teaching on the Holy Spirit was expanded by the reasoned consensus of the first Council of Constantinople (A.D. 381).
“And in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of Life, who proceeds from the Father; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets. In one Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins. I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.”
— Tit 3:6: Actually, is of one piece with 3:4-7 describing God’s kindness to us. Paul calls us to the washing of regeneration (baptism) and the renewing of the Holy Spirit (chrismation), “whom [the Holy Spirit] He [God the Father] poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,…”
Again, this shows God the Father is the source of the Holy Spirit, that the Holy Spirit proceeded from the Father, and comes through Jesus Christ.
— Romans 8:9: This is part of Apostle Paul’s discourse which expounds the two ways of human existence — “to have the nous of the sarx (flesh)” (carnally minded; one’s whole existence, soul and body, captivated by sin; or “to have the nous of the Spirit” (spiritually minded) means to choose to be liberated by the Holy Spirit, so that one’s whole nature becomes spiritual, body and soul, actively pursuing virtue and goodness.
This verse does not support the Filioque, otherwise Apostle Paul would be contradicting the pure words of Jesus Christ.
The “Spirit of Christ” refers to the intimacy of the Holy Spirit’s working with Christ in the divine economy, of Christians becoming “Christ-like.” The Son sends the Holy Spirit into the world (John 16:7), but eternally the Spirit proceeds only from the Father (John 15:26).
— Galatians 4:6-7: The ongrowing growth into adoption, being an heir of God is called deification. This means we are becoming by grace what God is by nature.
In the divine Economy of Salvation, each Person of the undivided Trinity, Spirit, Son, and Father (v.6) is involved in this transformation.
Therefore, to become sons of God by grace, one must believe in and know the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
— Phi 1:19-21: The major theme of Paul’s epistle to the exemplary church in Philippi is the dynamic of our life in Christ (Christ-like; grow in Christ-mindedness; the Spirit of Christ). Salvation is a dynamic, ongoing experience which is not merely personal, but shared among believers. He probably wrote this while he was under house arrest in Old Rome
St. Paul urges the believers in Philippi toward continued unity, selfless generosity and joy in Christ. This church was noted for its generosity in support of the apostolic ministry.
He also alerts the Philip-ian church to 1) interference from self-serving evangelists, 2) persecution from the world, and 3) antagonism from heretics, particularly the legalistic Judaizers.
In verse 1:19 in particular, Paul is saying that our witness for Christ goes beyond the words of our mouths, to the way we live and the way we die: the totality of what we are and do.
St. Paul expects deliverance (v 19; also Job 13:16 LXX), though not necessarily for his body. His expectation and hope is of eternal life in Christ.
@Citizenfitz
Quite a comprehensive answer!
But it cannot “defend” the indefensible. The truth is that the office of the pope was one of the instruments of the Judaising of the RCC.
What happens today is just the end result of centuries of sneaky Judaising, formal apostasy.
One should bear in mind that it was not so much the filioque clause which led to the schism of 1054.
It was the use of unleavened bred for the Eucharist. The Orthodox charged that it was “Judaising,” which certainly was.
It was introducing the notion that Jesus celebrated the Jewish Passover, that the Last Supper was a Seder, that the Christ came to fulfill the alleged promises to Israel.
@ ME2
July 22, 2012 @ 5:57 am
“Seems the thing to do would be to apply what they taught American GI’s. Kill them all and let Yahweh sort them out.”
That’s one way to SOLVE the JEWISH PROBLEM!!!
@ Taylor,
Thank you for your kind words.
As I said before, what I appreciate most about the RZN family is that sincere Christians like yourself, Joe Cortina, KathJuliane and many others have accepted me for what I am — a member of the Body of Christ, worthy of all of the privileges that every Christian will enjoy when we are reunited in Heaven with our Lord Jesus Christ.
It is always a pleasure to read KathJuliane’s posts — she is so knowledgeable about the Bible and the Orthodox faith, I feel like I am taking a college course on religion and its application to our daily lives.
And Brother Nathanael is unique in that he is able to examine the Jewish menace and show how close we are to complete anarchy, which of course follows the Jews’ plan for world domination.
Maybe they think that if we Christians are frightened enough, we will turn to the Jews as our saviors — as if we would abandon God and Jesus and turn to the spawn of Satan for our salvation. It just shows how twisted and perverse the Yids are.
Having come from a Jewish background, I would very much like to see more of the Jews turn their lives over to Jesus the True Messiah, which is of course the only way they will assure themselves of eternal life.
But the Jews will not do this, because in order to become Christians they would have to repent of their past sins against Christ and His Church, and they refuse to do this.
So they are condemned to be cast into the lowest pit of Hell, and to suffer the torments of the damned throughout eternity.
Jews are so indoctrinated with the propaganda that their rabbis drum into their heads that most of them really believe they are the Chosen People, and that it is their right to rule the world, as described in their Talmud.
Everything that the bandit state of IsraHELL does shows that the Jews dont give a cr-p about what the rest of the world thinks about them, they are going to continue to steal the Palestinians’ land and kill innocent people because their god tells them they have the right to steal and cheat and kill because they are the Chosen People.
Of course the Jews whine and moan about the so-called holoco$t, which has been proved never happened, but which they will fully deserve if it ever does happen.
The holoco$t is nothing more or less than a typical Jewish lie to swindle Gentiles by making us feel guilty so that we will pour our hard-earned money into Jewish causes, and support the bandit state of IsraHELL while they’re slaughtering the Palestinians.
I believe, and I tell my friends this, that one of the ways we can take the Jews down a peg, is to cut off all the billions of dollars we are sending to IsraHELL.
When the kikes in America have to support their kike brethren in IsraHELL out of their own pocketbooks, instead of relying on gullible Christians, maybe they’ll figure out it’s because we have far better uses for our hard-earned money than to waste it on a bunch of money-grasping kikes.
Well, anyway, Taylor, thanks again for your thoughts and prayers, and be assured that I will continue to post my thoughts about the Jewish threat to White civilization whenever the Holy Spirit tells me to.
Dear Brother Nat,
I appreciate the ceaseless work you are doing to expose organized Jewry’s crimes against humanity. You do this in a sincere and fair way.
But I am disturbed by some of the comments you tolerate, by their unnecessary use of hurtful language. Epithets such as “vermin” and even “the Jew” diminish the common humanity of our cause.
I don’t ask you to censor such speech, but please make known your disapproval of it from time to time.
It would not surprise me to learn that most such comments are made with the malicious intent of lowering the tone of your website.
@ Syed A R Zaidi
The Merriam-Webster
Unabridged Dictionary
vermin
ver·min
noun \ˈvər-mən\
pluralvermin
Definition of VERMIN
1
a: small common harmful or objectionable animals (as lice or fleas) that are difficult to control b: birds and mammals that prey on game c: animals that at a particular time and place compete (as for food) with humans or domestic animals
2
: an offensive person
Examples of VERMIN
The room was crawling with roaches and other vermin.
Origin of VERMIN
Middle English, from Anglo-French vermin, vermine, from verm worm, from Latin vermis
First Known Use: 14th century
Related to VERMIN
Synonyms: bastard, beast, bleeder [British], blighter [chiefly British], boor, bounder, bugger, buzzard, cad, chuff, churl, clown, creep, cretin, crud [slang], crumb [slang], cur, dirtbag [slang], dog, fink, heel, hound, joker, louse, lout, pill, rat, rat fink, reptile, rotter, schmuck [slang], scum, scumbag [slang], scuzzball [slang], skunk, sleaze, sleazebag [slang], sleazeball [slang], slime, slimeball [slang], slob, snake, so-and-so, sod [chiefly British], stinkard, stinker, swine, toad, varmint, jerk
Sounds like the JEW to me!!!
One thing I really appreciate and like about Brother Nathanael is that he NAMES THE JEW, so that every one knows who the enemy is, with names and faces.
GloryB: you left out one term I use to describe ’em (Jews).
That is “Termites”! I think that term of termites best describes the methods used for centuries by the “tribe” to infiltrate, and destroy all basic foundations relating to what exactly makes up what is commonly refered to as a Nation-Society-Culture-System-Government-Morals, etc.
First, in America anyway, Jews got total unregulated control of the national money systems (banks-1913 Fed Reserve Act = unconstitutional).
Second, Jews used the massive accumulated profits from said banks etc. to gain ownership & total control of most all forms of Press (newspepers/magazines); then once invented, control of radio, then, TV (Talmudvision = the Electric Jew in living rooms).
Third, Jews used all monetary & media control to Subvert an entire nation’s society and all forms it takes to create or maintain said peoples/society. This in turn gained jews near total control of both political parties since aproximately the turn of the 20th century up to present times.
Fourth, the end result (unless enough folks awaken and ACT in time to thwart these destructive “Termites”) will no doubt lead to what many commonly refer to as the Entire Roof Collapsing on All of Our Heads!
America began as a well built structure similar to hardwood log homes. However as we know “Termites” EAT wood to survive, but termites invade silently and secretly, and usually are never realized or found out until after so much damage is done and unseen behind walls, paint, facades and foundations.
Then like a House of Cards without a solid foundation and solid inner-beams-joints-supports, a completely termite infested and damaged house will likely collapse at first strong wind or shakings.
Thats my main reason to use Termites to describe what and How Jews do so much “Nation-Wreakings.” Most everyone over age 10 or 12 yrs old knows exactly what and how Termites operate to cause such massive dammages, even though so small an entity.
Citizenfitz,
You mentioned that the words of the Filioque “of the Son” had been around for a long time as justification for its insertion into the Nicene Creed.
True, but only since the 6th century, and its point of origin was in Visigothic Spain and its specific purpose to combat the Arian heresy.
Therefore, it has not, as St. Vincent of Lerin counsels us, “been everywhere and always believed” that the Holy Spirit “proceeds from the Father and the Son” as dogmatic theology. More, that a local council was needed to insert it into the Nicene Creed to adress a local problem in Spain is proof in itself that it was not formal dogma or doctrine anywhere prior to this.
And please keep in mind that a Church Father’s theological opinion is not the same as dogma or doctrine.
The Arians, nontrinitarians, denied the divinity of Christ and simply considered Him to be a supernatural creature (Only the Triune God is uncreated, all the rest of the supernatural world is created).
Arianism was anathematized by the first two Ecumenical Councils
The council was summoned in the year 325 by the Emperor St. Constantine the Great, who desired unity in the Roman Empire and thus called the Church’s bishops together to settle the raging within the empire of the heresy of Arianism the doctrine that Jesus Christ was a created being and therefore not truly the one God.
The synod had originally been intended to be held at Ancyra, but its location was moved by Constantine to Nicea (much closer to the imperial headquarters in Nicomedia) so that he might be able to participate more easily.
The First Council of Nicea assembled according to tradition on May 20 of 325.
Earlier in the year, there had already been a council at Antioch, presided over by St. Hosius of Cordoba, which condemned Arianism and its followers, even explicitly naming Eusebius of Caesarea (who is believed to have waffled somewhat on the question).
When Constantine convened the council at Nicea, he did so primarily out of a desire to have a unified Empire.
Although as emperor he had the right to summon the bishops to the assembly, it was very clear from the opening of the synod that the “spiritual power” traditional to the office and person of the Roman Emperor was being handed off by Constantine to the Church. In form and procedure, the ecumenical assembly of bishops was formally set up as a body comparable to the civil Roman Senate with its own powers over the internal spiritual, canonical and ecclesiastical affairs of the Church.
After the initial speeches by the emperor, Hosius is generally believed to have presided at the council, summoned on the scene by the emperor himself, who had retained him as theological advisor.
Fr. Alexander Schmemann writes in his Historical Road of Eastern Orthodoxy that Constantine intended the synod to be “the symbol and crown” of his victory over [the pagan] Licinius and the reunification of the Empire (p. 76).
In his opening address, St. Constantine describes disputes within the Church as “more dangerous than war and other conflicts; they bring me more grief than anything else.”
All throughout the sessions of the Synod, St. Constantine deferred to the bishops and the clergy, and when he spoke to the bishops to offer his opinions, he did so as a layman.
St. Constantine in attendance completely dispensed with the symbolic trappings of state power that the Roman Emperor was entitled to have, such as the military armor, the lichtor and the personal body guard. In the grammar of the court ceremonial protocols of the day, St. Constantine consistently and voluntarily displayed his spiritual submission to Christ and His Church.
In the 4th century, the bishop Wulfila (c 310 – 383) invented a script for the Gothic language, translated the Bible into Gothic, and converted the Goths to Arian Christianity.
It should be said that the Arian controversy was being addressed during Wulifa’s lifetime, and was to involve well over thirty Local, Regional, and the first two Ecumenical Councils during that period of time.
Wulifa was a Goth or half-Goth and half-Greek from Cappadocia who had spent time inside the Roman Empire at the peak of the Arian controversy. Wulfila was ordained a bishop by Arian Eusebius of Nicomedia and returned to his people to work as a missionary.
In 348, to escape religious persecution by a Gothic chief he obtained permission from the Arian Roman Emperor Constantius II to migrate with his flock of converts to Moesia and settle near Nicopolis ad Istrum in modern northern Bulgaria.
There, Ulfilas translated the Bible from Greek into the Gothic language. For this he devised the Gothic alphabet.
Fragments of his translation have survived, notably the Codex Argenteus held since 1648 in the University Library of Uppsala in Sweden. A parchment page of this Bible was found in 1971 in the Speyer Cathedral.
Ulfilas converted many among the Goths, preaching an Arian Christianity, which, when they reached the western Mediterranean, set them apart from their Orthodox neighbors and subjects.
There are five primary sources for the study of Ulfilas’s life. Two are by Arian authors, three by Orthodox.
The Arian sources depict Ulfilas as an Arian from childhood. He was then consecrated as a bishop around 340 and evangelized among the Goths for 7 years during the 340s.
He then moved to Moesia (within the Roman Empire) under the protection of the Arian Emperor Constantius II. He later attended several councils and engaged in continuing religious debate. They date his death in 383.
The accounts by the Orthodox historians differ in several details, but the general picture is similar. According to them, Ulfilas was an Orthodox Christian for most of his early life.
He was only converted to Arianism somewhere around 360, and then only because of political pressure from the pro-Arian ecclesiastical and governmental powers.
The sources also differ in how much they credit Ulfilas with the conversion of the Goths.
Socrates Scholasticus gives Ulfilas a minor role, and instead attributes the mass conversion to the Gothic chieftain Fritigern, who adopted Arianism out of gratitude for the military support of the Arian emperor.
Sozomen attributes the mass conversion primarily to Ulfilas, though he also acknowledges the role of Fritigern.
The Visigothic Kingdom was originally created by the peaceful settlement of the Visigoths under King Wallia in the province of Aquitaine in south-west France by the Roman government and then extended by conquest over all of the Iberian peninsula.
Early on, Wallia made peace with Western Roman Emperor Honorius and accepted a treaty with the Roman Empire.
He also returned Honorius’ sister Galla Placidia to him, during a Western Roman reign which was declining and growing more chaotic under the pressure of the barbarian incursions into Gaul.
Honorius also had to face internal revolts, usurpations, and then the execution of the powerful half-Goth and half-Roman Master of the Horse, General Stilcho as Honorius’ guardian as a youth, and later father-in-law who had added stability to Honorius’ rule.
As gains from these arrangements, Wallia was granted Aquitaine in 417 as a region where the Visigoths would be based as official allies or foederati of Constantinople, and granted the status of a consul. He established his court in Toulouse, which became the Visigothic capital for the rest of the fifth century. For unknown reasons, they soon fell out with their hosts and established their own kingdom with its capital at Toulouse.
Extending their authority into Hispania at the expense of the Vandals, Visgothic rule in Gaul was ended by the Salian Franks under the Orthodox Catholic King Clovis I, also granted foederati status by Constantinople at the Battle of Vouillé in 507.
Thereafter the only territory north of the Pyrenees that the Visigoths held was Septimania, such that their kingdom became limited to Hispania. The province came to be dominated by the Visigothic small governing elite at the expense of the Byzantine province of Spania and the Suebic Kingdom of Galicia in a form of proto-feudalism.
In any case, when the Visigoths traveled west into Roman territory they encountered West Roman Orthodox Christians, for whom Arianism was anathema. The Visigoths held to their Arian beliefs and refused to join the Orthodox Church, which was the imperial Church, and built their own Arian churches, such as are still found in Ravenna.
In this way, the Kingdom maintained independence from the Roman Empire, the attempts of which to re-establish Roman authority in Hispania were only partially successful and short-lived.
By the early 6th century, the Kingdom’s territory in Gaul had been lost to the Franks, save the narrow coastal strip of Septimania, but the Visigoth control of Iberia was secured by the end of that century with the submission of the Suebi and the Basques.
The ethnic distinction between the indigenous Hispano-Roman population and the Visigoths had largely disappeared by this time (the Gothic language lost its last and probably already declining function as a church language when the Visigoths converted to Catholicism in 589).
Liber Iudiciorum (completed in 654) finally abolished the old tradition of having different laws for Romans and for Visigoths, and the differences between Romani and Gothi, coalescing them into Hispani.
In A.D. 587, the local council of Toledo added filioque to the Creed as an attempt to combat Arianism of Visigothic Spain which was outside the bounds of the Roman Empire and Roman Spain.
In the following, the use of Orthodox or Orthodox Catholic applies to the Church, particularly of the Roman Empire, in both the East and West prior to the 11th century which adhered to and governed themselves by the eight Ecumenical Synods.
For much of their history in Spain, the Visigoths, an aristocratic minority, had kept themselves apart from the native Orthodox Hispano-Roman population, and ruled the country under two sets of laws, and maintained their own Arian church and hierachy.
The Visigoths and their early kings were Arian Christians and came into conflict with the the Roman Empire which held the Byzantine territories of southern Hispania, and with the indigenous Hispanic Romans belong to the Orthodox Catholic Church in the several provinces of the Iberian Penninsula.
After they converted to Nicene Christianity under the Orthodox King Reccared I of the Kingdom of Toledo, the Hispanic Church exerted an enormous influence on secular affairs through the Councils of Toledo.
Historical and political background of the decision of the Council of Toledo:
The highly romanized, cultured and civilized Visigoths entered Hispania in 415 and managed to compel the Vandals and Alans to sail for North Africa in 429. In 484 the Visigoths established Toledo as the capital of their monarchy. Successive Visigothic kings ruled Hispania as patricians who held imperial commissions to govern in the name of the Roman emperor.
Under the Visigoths, lay culture was not as highly developed as it had been under the Romans, and the task of maintaining formal education and government shifted decisively to the church because its Roman clergy alone were qualified to manage higher administration.
As elsewhere in early medieval Europe, the church in Hispania stood as society’s most cohesive institution.
The Visigoths are also responsible for the introduction of mainstream Christianity to the Iberian peninsular; the earliest representation of Christ in Spanish religious art can be found in a Visigothic hermitage, Santa Maria de Lara. It also embodied the continuity of Roman order.
In addition, Romans continued to run the civil administration and Latin continued to be the language of government and of commerce.
Religion was the most persistent source of friction between the Roman Orthodox Catholic Romans and their Arian Visigothic overlords, whom the former considered heretical.
At times this tension invited open rebellion, and restive factions within the Visigothic aristocracy exploited it to weaken the monarchy. In 589, Recared, a Visigothic ruler, renounced his Arianism before the Council of Bishops at Toledo and accepted Orthodox Catholicism, thus assuring an alliance between the Visigothic monarchy and the Romans.
In 585 the Visigoths conquered the Suebic Kingdom of Galicia, thus controlling almost all Hispania.
The Visigothic Kingdom suffered a civil war under King Agila I (549–54), which prompted the Roman/Byzantine emperor Justinian I to send an army, where he carved out Provincia Spaniae for the Byzantine Empire along the coast of southern Spain.
Agila was eventually killed and his enemy Athanagild (552–68) became the new king. He attacked the Byzantines, but he was unable to dislodge them from southern Spain, and was obliged to formally acknowledge the suzerainty of the Empire.
The next Arian Visigothic king was Liuvigild (569 – April 21, 586). He was an effective military leader and consolidated Visigothic power in Hispania.
Liuvigild campaigned against the Romans in the south in the 570s and he took back Córdoba after another revolt. He also fought in the north against the Suebi and various small independent states, including the Basques and the Cantabrians. He pacified northern Hispania, but he was unable to completely conquer these peoples.
When Liuvigild established his son Hermenegild as joint ruler, a civil war ensued, because Hermenegild became the first Visigothic king to convert to Orthodox Christianity due to his ties with the Romans in Provincia Spaniae and the East. However, he was defeated and sent into exile in 584.
By the end of his reign Liuvigild had united the entire Iberian peninsula under Visigothic rule, including the Suebic Kingdom which he conquered in 585 during a Suebi civil war that ensued after the death of King Miro.
Liuvigild established amicable terms with the Orthodox Merovingian Franks–the dynasty established by King Clovis I was politically allied to Constantinople–through royal marriages, and they remained at peace throughout most of his reign.
On becoming king, Liuvigild’s son Reccared I (586–601) converted to Orthodox Christianity, and established ties to Constantinople. This led to some unrest in the Kingdom, notably a revolt by the Arian bishop of Mérida which was put down, he also beat back another Frankish offensive in the north.
Reccared also fought the Byzantines in Hispania Baetica (modern Andalusia) after they had begun a new offensive.
Reccared I then oversaw the Third Council of Toledo in 589, where he announced his faith in the Nicene creed and denounced Arian. He adopted the name Flavius, the family name of the Constantinian dynasty and styled himself as the successor to the Roman emperors.
The Third Council of Toledo (589) marks the entry of Orthodox Christianity into the rule of Visigothic Spain, and the introduction into Western Christianity of the filioque clause as a defense against Arianism. The council also enacted restrictions on Jews.
Reccared’s son Liuva II became king in 601 but was deposed by the Visigothic noble Witteric (603–610) ending the short-lived dynasty. There were various Visigothic Kings between 610 and 631 and this period saw constant regicide.
This period also saw the definitive conquest of the Roman territories in the south. War continued in the north against the Basques and Asturians, as indeed it would continue for the rest of the Visigothic Kingdom’s existence.
These Kings also worked on religious legislature, especially King Sisebut (612–621) who passed several harsh laws against Jews and forced many Jews to convert to Christianity. Sisebut was also successful against the Byzantine Romans, taking several of their cities including Málaga.
The Romans were finally defeated by Suintila (621–631), who had captured all of their Spanish holdings by 625. Suinthila was deposed by the Franks and replaced by Sisinand.
The power struggle between the Kings and Nobility caused political instability in Visigothic Spain.
Religious unification strengthened the political power of the Iberian Church which it exercised through church councils at Toledo along with the nobles.
The 4th council of Toledo, held during the brief reign of Sisinand in 633 excommunicated and exiled the King replacing him with Chintila (636–639).
The Local Church councils were now the most powerful institution in the Visigothic state, they took the role of regulating the process of succession to the Kingship by election of the King by Gothic noble ‘senators’ and the church officials.
They also decided to meet on a regular basis to discuss ecclesiastical and political matters which affected the Church of Spain. Finally, they decided that the King should die in peace and declared their person sacred, seeking to end the violence and regicides of the past.
Despite all this, another coup took place and Chintila was deposed in 639 and King Tulga took his place, he was also deposed in the third year of his reign and the council elected the noble Chindasuinth as king.
Prior to the Third Council in Toledo, King Reccared had convened informal assemblies of bishops to resolve the religious schism in his kingdom.
At the second assembly both Arian and Orthodox Catholic bishops presented their arguments, while Reccared pointed out that no Arian bishop had ever performed a healing miracle.
The last assembly consisted of only Orthodox Catholic bishops, where upon Reccared accept the Orthodox Catholic faith.
The Council was organized by Bishop Leander of Seville, who had worked tirelessly to convert the Arian Visigothic kings and had succeeded with Reccared. Abbot Eutropius had the chief day-to-day management of the council, according to the chronicler John of Biclaro.
In the king’s name, Leander brought together bishops and nobles in May of 589. However, King Reccared and Bishop Leander were only able to persuade eight Arian bishops to attend the council.
The Council opened on May 4, with three days of prayer and fasting. Then, the public confession of King Reccared was read aloud by a notary.
Its theological precision defining Trinitarian and Arian tenets, establishing Reccared’s newly-achieved orthodoxy, and its extensive quotation from scripture revealed that it was in fact ghostwritten for the king, doubtless by Leander.
In it, Reccared declared that God had inspired him to lead the Goths back to the true faith, from which they had been led astray by false teachers. (In fact they had been Christianized by Wulifa, but Leander’s theme was reconciliation.)
He declared that not only the Goths but the Suevi, who by the fault of others had been led into heresy, had been brought back to the faith.
These nations Reccared dedicated to God by the hands of the bishops, whom he called on to complete the work.
Reccared then anathematized Arius and his doctrine, and declared his acceptance of the councils of Nicaea, Constantinople, Ephesus, Chalcedon and pronounced an anathema on all who returned to Arianism after being received into the Church by the chrism, or the laying on of hands.
Then followed the creeds of Nicaea and Constantinople and the definition of Chalcedon, and the tome concluded with the signatures of Reccared and Baddo, his queen. This confession was received with a general acclamation.
One of the Orthodox Catholic bishops then called on the assembled bishops, clergy, and Gothic nobles to declare publicly their renunciation of Arianism and their acceptance of Orthodoxy.
They replied that although they had done so already when they had gone over with the king to the Church, they would comply.
Then followed 23 anathemas directed against Arius and his doctrines, succeeded by the creeds of Nicaea and Constantinople and the definition of Chalcedon, the whole being subscribed by 8 Arian bishops with their clergy, and by all the Gothic nobles.
Reccared then bid the council with his license to draw up any requisite canons, particularly one directing the creed to be recited at Communion, so that henceforward no one could plead ignorance as an excuse for misbelief. Then followed 23 canons with a confirmatory edict of the king.
Of interest is the 14th canon which forbade Jews to have Christian wives, concubines, or slaves, ordered the children of such unions to be baptized, and disqualified Jews from any office in which they might have to punish Christians.
Christian slaves whom they had circumcised, or made to share in their rites, were ipso facto freed.
As far as the effects of the Council of Toledo, the proscriptions against Jews were soon followed by required conversions, which led to a wholesale flight of Jews from Visigothic Spain to Ceuta and technically Visigothic nearby territories in North Africa.
There, a community of Jewish exiles and Arian malcontents formed, that were later to provide useful alliance and information at the time of the Moorish invasion in 711.
The filioque clause in the Symbol of Faith, originally meant as a local reinforcement against the Arian heresy, spread through the Latin-literate West but not through the Greek-speaking East. The altered Creed was probably used as a test of commitment when bishops and clergy were suspected of Arianism.
However, outside of Spain The Carolingian Franks adopted it, but its use caused great controversy in the 9th and 10th centuries; and then in England, where the Council of Hatfield imposed it in 680 as a response to Monothelitism.
Its use spread to Rome soon after 1000, and it contributed to the Great Schism (1054) between Rome and Constantinople-New Rome, and became a large stick in Rome’s arsenal for the growing political and territorial struggles of the Papacy to exert spiritual and temporal domination over Patriarchs, Emperors, Bishops and Kings.
And, lest anyone be confused about “Arianism” and “Aryanism” as it happened to play out particularly among the early migrating German tribes intruding into, and settling westwards from the German lands inside and outside the empire, Arius himself was NOT a German and the heresy shook the entire Christian world, not just the West Roman Empire.
Little is known of the life of Arius, but he was a Christian presbyter in ancient Roman Alexandria of Libyan origins before the Germanic Vandals ever arrived in the North African provinces.
The problem of Filioque does not reside so much in its doctrinal error (which definitely is).
It is rather the fact that it was used as ammunition by the Popes and their stooges the Carolingians in condemning the “Greek heresy.”
The arguments of the Frankish theologians in the denunciation of the 7th Council and of the veneration of icons were purely Jewish.
They run in the sense that the “Greeks” did not understand the Old Testament correctly. From that point on the Popes started to find more and more deviations of the “Greeks” duly anathematizing them, and eventually initiating military expeditions in order to eradicate the Schism and the “heresy.”
That is the reason why Papacy is execrated by the Orthodox.
PS. As I said earlier that I’m proud to be an American of Eastern European Jewish descent.
Quite a few members of my family were murdered in WW2. The murders were committed by the Nazi’s and the Communists. My father was in a Communist Slave Labor camp from late 1939 till when the USSR declared war on Nazi Germany.
The Wiesenthal Foundation is useless as tits on a boar and the above politicians that you mentioned are nothing but amoral opportunists and traitors.
Yours in liberty.
Hey all of you brothers and sisters in the fight to maintain our freedom.
I ask that as many of you that believe in Jesus (Yashua) as saviour assist in the fight against the Zionist (Jews and Gentiles) that I battle daily on the politial section of http://www.PensacolaFishingForum.
There is a political section there where I have battled these Zionist for years, but I need help. No membership fee just join and go all the way down to the POLITICAL SECTION and join the battle. I need help.
I am a member of Br. Nathanael’s, I have donated and will continue to donate to keep this man’s voice heard.
HELP … These Sheeple are really too much at times.
I advise you to keep as much personal ID information to yourself when you post, some of these Zionist try to be intimidating.
Thanks
Bro. Nathanael,
I believe our media IS the crux of the problem with these bad Jews. Without that strangle-hold those Jews have on the American mind by owning over 90% of OUR media, people could make rational decisions.
I am continuing to send out your emails to my list. I hope someday, somebody catches on and isn’t afraid to say “JEWS OWN OUR MEDIA AND WE WANT IT BACK!!!”
HAVE YOU SENT YOUR DONATION TO BROTHER NATHANAEL YET?
Romney, both thumbs down!!!!
Republicans and Millions of Evangelical Christians Want to Start WWIII to Speed the “Second Coming.”
Neocons are Using Religion to Rile Them Up to Justify War Against Iran. millions of Americans believe that Christ will not come again until Israel wipes out its competitors and there is widespread war in the Middle East. Some of these folks want to start a huge fire of war and death and destruction, so that Jesus comes quickly.
According to French President Chirac, Bush told him that the Iraq war was needed to bring on the apocalypse:
In Genesis and Ezekiel Gog and Magog are forces of the Apocalypse who are prophesied to come out of the north and destroy Israel unless stopped. The Book of Revelation took up the Old Testament prophesy:
“And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.”
Bush believed the time had now come for that battle, telling Chirac:
“This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins”…
There can be little doubt now that President Bush’s reason for launching the war in Iraq was, for him, fundamentally religious. He was driven by his belief that the attack on Saddam’s Iraq was the fulfilment of a Biblical prophesy in which he had been chosen to serve as the instrument of the Lord.
And British Prime Minister Tony Blair long-time mentor, advisor and confidante said:
“Tony’s Christian faith is part of him, down to his cotton socks. He believed strongly at the time, that intervention in Kosovo, Sierra Leone – Iraq too – was all part of the Christian battle; good should triumph over evil, making lives better.”
Mr. Burton, who was often described as Mr. Blair’s mentor, says that his religion gave him a “total belief in what’s right and what’s wrong”, leading him to see the so-called War on Terror as “a moral cause”…
Anti-war campaigners criticised remarks Mr. Blair made in 2006, suggesting that the decision to go to war in Iraq would ultimately be judged by God.
Bill Moyers reports that the organization Christians United for Israel – led by highly-influential Pastor John C. Hagee – is a universal call to all Christians to help factions in Israel fund the Jewish settlements, throw out all the Palestinians and lobby for a pre-emptive invasion of Iran. All to bring Russia into a war against us causing World War III followed by Armageddon, the Second Coming and The Rapture. See this and this.
This all revolves around what is called Dispensationalism. So popular is Dispensationalism that Tim LaHaye’s Left Behind series has sold 65 million copies.
Dear Brother Nathanael,
Thank you for continually supplying us with the truth about the evil disease that is the Jew. You are truly an inspiration my friend.
Since I was a child I was able to see what a problem to the rest of the world the Jew is. At every chance I get I try to open the eyes of those around me by showing them the truth of who the Jews realy are.
You are far from alone +BN, and more people learn to see the truth every day because of your words. I myself will not rest til the Jew has been dominated and subdued on this planet in whatever means possible.
For all the children, men and women they are murdering in Palestine, they should be wiped out — never mind all their other crimes through out history.
Keep the faith Brother Nathanael, my prayers are with you.
J.M. Thompson – Skegness, UK.
This answers all the things that I have not understood.
For example Obama has done worse than Nixon, but the newspapers and television tormented Nixon while everything Obama does turns to gold in their eyes.
“KK
@Glory B.
Re: Circumcision
Orthodox Jews do not wish to be served food prepared by uncircumcised Goyim or have their hair cut by an uncircumcised barber.
I have known Jews who refuse to eat meat prepared by kosher meat markets that hire Goyim and will even travel 200 miles if necessary to purchase elsewhere.
I know of a Jew who insisted upon knowing if a certain barber was cut.
Despite all the propaganda and media reports which insist otherwise, there is no significant advantage for circumcised males when it comes to avoiding the transmission of AIDS. In addition, females are at greater risk of being infected with AIDS if their partner is circumcised.
http://health.howstuffworks.com/diseases-conditions/infectious/circum-aids-female.htm
http://www.circumstitions.com/HIV.html ”
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Hey KK
But!!!!!! They are not the majority!
This is a Christian nation. If they want to be around the circumcised, then stay out of regions with a Christian majority.