Obama’s EU Dilemma
OBAMA’S EU DILEMMA
By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2008
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THE EUROPEAN UNION JUST SENT OBAMA a “Things To Do” list. This was in a six-page letter addressed to Barack Obama from EU leaders on November 4, 2008.
The letter asked the president-elect to recognize an emerging “multilateral” scenario in forming his foreign policy – inferring that rule from a single capital is no longer accepted by Europe. Here’s what the EU wants Obama “to do:”
Recognize Russia’s Resurgent Power.
Pursue A Middle East Peace Process.
Grant The EU A Greater Role In World Affairs.
Conclude a Peaceful Settlement In Afghanistan.
“RUSSIA IS OUR NEIGHBOR” remarked French foreign minister, Bernard Kouchner, in Marseilles, where the letter to Obama was drafted.
Kouchner’s ongoing remarks reflected the letter’s import when it stated that Obama must ‘take note of Russia’s economic revival’ & ‘intensify diplomatic efforts’ to avoid the risk of confrontation.
As voiced by Kouchner, the letter stressed that recognition of Russia as Europe’s ‘permanent neighbor’ should inform Obama’s policy towards Moscow so as not to disrupt ‘neighborly relations’ between Europe & Russia.
GERMANY IS NOW CALLING FOR AN END to US unilateralism. This call was reported by Der Speigel on November 6 2008. Obama was put on notice that America must now grant Europe a larger role in Washington’s decisions & conduct abroad. In the Der Speigel article, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that she will “seek new allies” and pursue “better ties with China.”
Germany’s concern once again reflected the EU’s letter to Obama in which it stressed the importance of “multilateralism” in world governance. The letter made this quite specific when it called for the G-8 to be expanded to a group of 14 leading industrialized nations.
But China has doubts about an ‘Obama America’ – China’s new way of labeling the financially troubled US. And Russia, as voiced in Medvedev’s November 5 2008, National Speech, looks upon the US as “bloated with pride” & “a nation that runs its foreign policy on double standards.”
The dilemma facing Obama is obvious. Will he heat up his rhetoric against Europe’s new allies, Russia & China? Or will Obama realize that Amerika’s days of the big bully are over.
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Brother Nathanael @ November 12, 2008
Hi Everybody —
First I want to thank all of you for your prayers for a speedy recovery from my hernia operation that I had last week. Your prayers are working! Yeah!
Finally, today, I started feeling better. I took a long walk and felt pretty good so I decided to do a little Street Evangelism. Everyone here in the Ski Resort capital of the US here in Summit County CO were happy to see me back, with plenty of waves, thumbs up, smiles, honks, (we love Jesus here!), and gestures of affirmation as I held the Cross close to my heart. Yeah!
This was a fun article to do as I get head cramp in doing articles on Jews like Rahm Emanuel who is a racist, IsraHell enthusiast – a war monger, a hater of humanity, a promoter of the destruction of the Palestinian people.
I got some good pics in this time, especially Barky in his London fog — and all the “male model” poses for all the Euopean “vogue” mags. Isn’t it just swell having not only a political rock star as our prez but a GQ male model as well! (Check out the Europan mag pic with Obama’s hands in his pockets — typical “male model” stuff.)
Evidently, Europe sees the writing on the wall with regard to a bankrupt America and feels that they want to go with economic “winners” like Russia and China.
Slowly, the power players in the EU like Merkel and Kouchner are tilting away from Amerika.
Obama will soon have to tow the line. UNLESS – he MUST, (and he must), take orders from his handlers, the JEWS, who want war, hate Putin, (he’s a devout Christian), and want more racist apartheid in IsraHell.
But the Lord is in control and he moves the pieces on the chess board. The Grand Chessboard belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ. NOT Brzezinski. NOT Rambo “racist Zionist Jew” Emanuel, and certainly NOT AIPAC.
“Dear Lord Jesus Christ please look down upon this world that YOU created and Intervene to make this world a better place by obeying Your teachings of seeking peace with all nations. May Amerika find repentance and begin beating its swords into plowshares as Your Holy Gospel enjoins.”
Love you all and much thanks to those of you who have contributed to the cause — I mean, OUR cause! +BN
From what I understand, Obama wants Peace between India and Pakistan over Kashmir…as a US Brokered Deal…which, of course, won’t address the real issues of that Hindu/Buddhist/Muslim region…AND LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES….
We can thank the British for that blunder in 1948, much like Isra-Hell….
America is turning to India (once allied with the Soviets) while Pakistan is under increasing internal disruption from CIA Operations to make peace…
Ironic…because Pakistan has Always been Allies with the United Satan….I mean, States…
Pakistan is another ‘perfect example’ of what happens when Muslim countries deal with Zionist/American Handouts… IT COMES BACK TO BITE THEM, MANY YEARS LATER!!! Iran, Iraq, Georgia, etc.,etc….
India and Pakistan now have a bigger chance of confrontation than Isra-Hell with Iran…
This Pakistan region is key…. Obama now wants to “relaunch the hunt for Osama Bin Laden”… hahahahahaha!!! They want Pakistan to Police a Region that Nobody can Patrol except the Taliban!!!
Somebody ought to tell the Incoming Commander in Chief, that the Outgoing Idiot gave up 6 years ago! (maybe longer, before Sept 10, 2001 when the Orders were signed to invade Afghanistan!)
(I wonder if anybody has told Obama he’s now in control of the shipments of Opium and Heroin into the US for all his “brothers”???)
The US is not only collapsing its own economy, it’s trying to take Europe’s down with it….after all, It’s Rothschild’s Europe…not some grovelling Merkl or Sarkozy…
But the Main Problem? A “Debt-Free” RUSSIA!!!
The Ukraine Sinks, as Mother Russia continues to “steamroll” along….
And that upsets the RED SHIELD, or Rothschild Family…along with the Schiffs…and their beloved Knesset.
It’s interesting…Turkey, Pakistan, and India all have Nukes….
Maybe this is the warning that “Biden/Powell/Albright” were talking about a few weeks back…
Bravo for another brilliant article Brother Nathanael!
@ CIVILIAN DEATH MACHINE
Very nice comment. You know I was reading recently prophecies of Vanga. She predicted WTC collapse, sinking of Russian atomic submarine Kursk in 2000. Actually by a miracle we escaped the third world war in that time, and you all know why. Thanks to Putin and martyrs-sailors of Kursk. She predicted also that there will be conflict in Hindostan (India) over Kashmir (my guess)
which eventually will transform into the third world war at 2010. Let us pray that evil will fail again as it failed on August 8, 2008.
I agree with the EU, these 4 points are crucial to avoid a WWIII scenario.
Obama was put in power to give a legitimate 2nd round of the Bush doctrine. The peoples who own Obama (the Big Banks, George Soros and Brzinsky) want to push a neoliberal agenda, the same agenda Clinton pursued in the 90’s. The “change” brought is just a facelift and nothing else.
I have strong doubt multileralism will be adopted by Obama, that USA will tone down the NATO and its rhetoric against Russia, and that they will abandon Afghanistan.
What will be interesting to see is EU’s reaction against this, will they align themselves with the East to block America, and what will Great Britain do. Will Gordon Brown set aside with the EU or will he step down in favor of the USA?
Hi, I’m listening to a radio program now – Edmund Viera is talking about Obama’s lack of a Birth Certificate, Phil Berg’s lawsuit, and Obama is not a “natural born citizen” and therefore is not qualified to be President. Have you heard of this?
Thanks
Br Nathanael Kapner, I will take this opportunity to say thank you for all of your tireless anti-Zionist work and exposing the truth for all through this website.
The plan to destroy America from within was the Communist plan for at least 4 decades already. Who better than a Communist now in office to accomplish that in the “White” House?
It´s all part of the Satanic Zionist and worldwide Freemasonic network that plans on bringing in Satan´s kingdom on Earth in a “Global” Communist Gov´t under the UN and run by Satanic Jews and their Freemasaonic puppets!
biblically speaking, i can see a greater role for the EU whether obomination says so or not !!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm_xX1Ur43I
goldieshouse.piczo.com
To Fr. Joseph, I’ve studied Fatima, now tell me has Russia spread immorality and materialism, & why would the Pope Endorse the Noahide Laws ?
Also, what – if any scriptural basis is there that warranted the creation of, and submission to a Pope in the first place..?
Brother,
Any chances of making it to Arizona? Would sure like to come by and hear you evangelize here to the many Jews that have capture our capitol. I was reading a book last night called Evidence of Satan in the Modern World and it was written in 1958 by Leon Cristiani. An old priest gave it to me and I just barely started to read it after having it for years.
It has a few paragraphs regarding Russia. I found it curious as our US of A has engrained in our heads that Russia is the absolute enemy of all humanity. I don’t doubt communism is an antichristian ideology but where is Russia going today?
I still hear comments on how Putin is bluffing and he is a real murderer. No one knows what to beleive anymore? This book speaks about a very different comparison of China to Russia, both being communist, but says there is a vast difference between the two because there is big difference between a possession and infestation.
The author states that China is possessed. Satan is master. He controls every movement of that great body and so on.He then says in Russia the Devil is acive in government circles, in politics, in education, in the directives for the future. But what was for so long known as “Holy Russia” is still largely intact. Faith is alive and prayer is active.
All the lies of the Devil have not modified the profound faith of the Russian people.
Infestations may be violent and perfidious, but are ineffective to destroy the soul of the nation. He states that everything we know or believe about Russia leads us to trust in an essential dualism, between the demonic part in power (at that time) and a great mass of Christians who have remained? Do you agree with this view? He goes on to say this: Russia not only resists the assaults of the Devil, but,with its patience and loyalty and attachment to old national traditions is, perhaps, with the help of the Virgin Mary, to be the Panagia, the All-Holy, preparing a resurrection which will astonish the world.
I hope Russia realizes that it is many in our country of USA who follow the party line (not including myself) because of stupidity and love of self and rejection of the true Messiah and His Church, but there are some out here, unfortunately, who have to live within the midst of all this hell and do not have much to do or say about what is happening in our country.
Most of them women……
Dear Regina – I would love to come to Arizona to do Street Evangelism.
In fact, I would love to go to every major city in the USA to do Street Evangelism.
But travel, airplane, accomodations, etc cost mucho bucks. With the continual costs of Real Jew News and my limited income, I just do not have the financial wherewithal to bring Street Evangelism much any place else but here in the Rocky Mts of Colorado.
Perhaps you would consider bringing me out to Arizona? That’s the only way I could do it. +BN
Obama is a puppet of the jewish house of rothschild based in the UK- nothing more, nothing less.
International jewry completely controls Amerika thru the federal reserve (owned by Rothschild and Co) and is ready to economically implode the USA so that Americans become fuedal slaves to the new jew masters of the universe.
Regards,
Jonah
California USA
http://jonastheprophet.tk
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Mafia Jews: Inside a Genuine Cabal.
Story Here…..
The Corruption of Ronald Reagan
Story Here…..
They (the shadow government) have been systematically destroying America since Reagan/Bush years.
It started with the Chrysler bail out loan so Mr. Lee Iacocca could go to Mexico and set up the first Maquiladora factory in a sweetheart deal.
Since Mexico nationalized its oil fields in the 70’s and cut the American investors out.
So, Newsweek is reporting that President-Elect Obama has appointed an “Advisory Board” for his transition. The roster of the Advisory Board is:
Carol Browner-Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency under Bill Clinton.
William Daley-Clinton confidant and Secretary of Commerce under Bill Clinton.
Christopher Edley-Deputy Director, Office of Management and Budget under Bill Clinton
Michael Frorman-Senior Aide to Clinton Secretary of the Treasury, Robert Rubin
Julius Genachowski-Senior Staff member of the FCC under Bill Clinton.
Donald Gips-Cheif Domestic Policy Advisor for Vice President Al Gore.
Janet Napolitano-Governor of Arizona
Federico Peña-Secretary of Transportation under Bill Clinton
Susan Rice- Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs under Bill Clinton
Sonal Shah-Assistant Under Secretary of the Treasury under Bill Clinton
Ted Kaufman-Chief of Staff for Joe Biden and Clinton Appointee to Broadcasting Board of Governors (Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty, Radio Marti and Voice of America)
Mark Gitenstein-Chief Counsel, Senate Judiciary Committee and Senate Intelligence Committee.
Did I hear something about the possibility that Clinton Administration might resemble an Obama Administration or am I just hallucinating? It appears the same Clintonista global Marxist criminal fools who wrote “It Takes a Whole Village to Raise the Village Idiot” have got “their” White House back.
Dear Orthodox Russian,
I’ve read many articles about Vanga, the blind prophet who lived her modest life in fasting and prayer. I also read that 75-80% of her predictions are turning to be true…
Yes, you are right about Kursk. Years ago maybe in 1980 she predicted that Kursk would sink and the whole world would mourn. At that time nobody believed it because Kursk is a city in Russia with dry surroundings. But several years ago the Russian submarine Kursk sank and 118 people died and the whole world mourned… As far as I remember she predicted exactly the month but was not certain about the year, she said 1999 or 2000 and as you know Kursk sank on August 12, 2000.
I also read her prophesy about Russia. What I remember is that she said that Russia would rise from the ashes and would reach unseen spiritual development. Also she said that new spiritual Russia would lead the world! The other interesting thing I read was about Vladimir. She said, can not remember the exact year, could be 1990 or so, that a man, named Vladimir would bring Russia to new life, new prosperity and some other good words which I do not remember now. People at the time wondered who would be that Vladimir… The blessed lady died 1996, as far as I remember, and the interesting thing is that she is not even Russian and Vladimir Putin appeared later in 2000. She predicted that WWIII would start in 2010 in November.
Dear Orthodox Russian,
I agree Satan is not so dangerous now, he is getting weaker by the day but he is still here and for some people could be dangerous.
One year and a half ago I had a strange dream. I saw in my dream a lot of people staying around a tall white building, everybody looked at the roof of the building where a dark creature something between man, horse and dog was staying. Even now I remember Very Vividly that scary man/animal. The most interesting part was that this man had his arms stretched to the sky and he seemed to be praying… and I felt his pray was sincere. Could Satan be praying to GOD and for what? To forgive him or to help him..? I myself have no explanation.
Here I have an interesting link for you, a movie about Vanga, it is free.
http://aif.ru/politic/article/22389
Take care everybody,
Eternal Love
I am sorry here is the correct link about Vanga:
http://www.etvnet.ca/free_8647.html
Eternal Love
There is indeed three lawsuits filed with the Supreme court, stating empathicly, and filed by an attorney, stating Obama’s birth was Kenya. Therefore, according to the US constitution, Obama is ineligible for president!
Of further note: Obama most likely is a crypt o Muslim, and according to the Koran, it is ok to lie, deny your true faith, in order to advance Islam.
If Obama gets away with this,and up to this point, he has still not produced his birth certificate, Americans will live under a president whose platform is based on a LIE! Christianity, Judaism, any faith other than Islam, is arbitrarily INFIDEL, worthy of death by decapitation.
Dear joshua,
As a U.S. citizen and veteran of the U.S. Armed Forces coupled with the Graces granted to me by our Lord and God via my Christian baptism, my Christian faith and with my ordination into the Church’s Priesthood, I have a moral and spiritual duty to bear CHARITY to my fellow U.S. citizens AS WELL AS with each and every last human being currently alive here on our planet earth.
I have tried and will continue to try to bring about a radical spiritual and moral ‘CHANGE’ to my U.S. Nation and I have tried and will continue to try to bring about a radical spiritual and moral ‘CHANGE’ to all the peoples of every last nation-state here on earth.
This fixation and obsession with ‘Geopolitics’ and who gets to royally foul up the lives of the people here in the U.S.A. as well as every last nation-state of our World is of an entirely secondary nature.
What is of primary concern (to me anyways) is for the Eternal Salvation of 6 billion human souls here on earth so that God our Father receives the Glory and Honor that is DUE HIM for having sent us His Only Begotten Son as our Savior, Redeemer and LORD!
The public and solemn Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Most Immaculate Heart of the Mother of God, the Most Holy Theotokos, is MEANT TO bring about a ‘Global Second Pentecost’ whereby God the Holy Spirit brings NEW LIFE to the minds, hearts, souls and spirits of 6 billion human beings all created in the Image and Likeness of our God and Creator!
Would you like for me to ‘preach’ a wee bit more on this to you (and for anyone else who might be reading these postings of mine, of ours)? Or perhaps I ought to make that an offer of being a good Priest and conducting a Christian ‘Catechism’ Class for anyone who might be interested in the future of Mankind here on our planet earth?
– Fr. Joseph
Greetings in the Lord Jesus from No Cal US of Talmudistan
St. John Chrysostom, Archbishop of Antioch and later Constantinople
Our father among the saints John Chrysostom (347-407), Archbishop of Constantinople, was a notable Christian bishop and preacher from the fourth and fifth centuries in Syria and Constantinople. He is famous for eloquence in public speaking and his denunciation of abuse of authority in the Church and in the Roman Empire of the time. He had notable ascetic sensibilities. After his death he was named Chrysostom, which comes from the Greek Χρυσόστομος, “golden-mouthed.”
He was born in Antioch of noble parents: his father was a high-ranking military officer. His father died soon after his birth and so he was brought up by his mother Anthusa. He was baptized in 370 and tonsured a reader (one of the minor orders of the Church). He began his education under a pagan teacher named Libanius, but went on to study theology under Diodore of Tarsus (one of the leaders of the later Antiochian School) while practising extreme asceticism. He was not satisfied, however, and became a hermit (circa 375) and remained so until poor health forced a return to Antioch.
Notable are his insightful expositions of Bible passages and moral teaching. The most valuable of his works are his Homilies on various books of the Bible. He particularly emphasized almsgiving. He was also most concerned with the spiritual and temporal needs of the poor. He spoke out against abuse of wealth and personal property. In many respects, the following he amassed was no surprise. His straightforward understanding of the Scriptures (in contrast to the Alexandrian tendency towards allegorical interpretation) meant that the themes of his talks were eminently social, explaining the Christian’s conduct in life.
St. John was fearless when denouncing offences in high places.
“When an archer desires to shoot his arrows successfully, he first takes great pains over his posture and aligns himself accurately with his mark. It should be the same for you who are about to shoot the head of the wicked devil. Let us be concerned first for the good order of sensations and then for the good posture of inner thoughts.”
The Homilies against the Judaizers
Chrysostom wrote of the Jews and of Judaizers in eight homilies Adversus Judaeos (against the Judaizers). These quotes are translations posted by Paul Halsall from the original Greek: other researchers give slightly different translations. At the time he delivered these sermons, Chrysostom was a tonsured reader and had not yet been ordained a priest or bishop.
“The festivals of the pitiful and miserable Jews are soon to march upon us one after the other and in quick succession: the feast of Trumpets, the feast of Tabernacles, the fasts. There are many in our ranks who say they think as we do. Yet some of these are going to watch the festivals and others will join the Jews in keeping their feasts and observing their fasts. I wish to drive this perverse custom from the Church right now.” (Homily I, I, 5)
“Shall I tell you of their plundering, their covetousness, their abandonment of the poor, their thefts, their cheating in trade? The whole day long will not be enough to give you an account of these things. But do their festivals have something solemn and great about them? They have shown that these, too, are impure.” (Homily I, VII, 1)
“But before I draw up my battle line against the Jews, I will be glad to talk to those who are members of our own body, those who seem to belong to our ranks although they observe the Jewish rites and make every effort to defend them. Because they do this, as I see it, they deserve a stronger condemnation than any Jew.” (Homily IV, II, 4)
“Are you Jews still disputing the question? Do you not see that you are condemned by the testimony of what Christ and the prophets predicted and which the facts have proved? But why should this surprise me? That is the kind of people you are. From the beginning you have been shameless and obstinate, ready to fight at all times against obvious facts.” (Homily V, XII, 1)
Dear Eternal Love,
Thank you for movie link. I will dare to interpret your dream if you’ll pardon me. White building you have seen is white house. That half man, half animal you have seen is symbolizing Obama in my opinion.
Yes, he was praying to God, because it is extremely hard to serve many masters at the same time.
And the miracle Vanga mentioned in her prophecies about Obama becoming president connected to the miracle which will be a great benefit for the world.
The only miracle I see is repentance in the higher ranks of power on the brink of devastating economical destruction of the country.
Dear joshua,
Please note KathJuliane’s posting regarding St. John Chrysostom. St. John Chrysostom holds a special place in my heart as I was ordained into the Priesthood with the musical Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom.
Next, please note carefully the Prophecy of St. Nilus who was a direct disciple of St. John Chrysostom here:
http://www.fisheaters.com/nilus.html
Please note well that his prophecy begins with “After the year 1900…”
Please carefully read the significance of the Divine Revelation given to Pope Leo XIII back in October 1884 wherein the Bishop of Rome overheard Satan challenging our Lord, Savior and King that with more power over people and a century’s worth of time that he, Satan, would destroy the Church within this webpage:
Sorry, can’t post the link. Won’t let me.
Please read the sub-section entitled ‘Rakovsky’ down a wee bit on this webpage:
Sorry, can’t post the link. Won’t let me.
Please read the sub-section entitled ‘Theurigical Content of the Zohar’ at the bottom of this webpage:
Sorry, can’t post the link. Won’t let me.
Please read the following articles:
Sorry, can’t post the links. Won’t let me.
All the wars, suffering, pain, anguish and misery imposed on the people of this world of ours, all who are created in the Image and Likeness of God Himself and who have been redeemed by the Sacrifice of our Lord and Savior on His Cross in order to win for His Eternal Father a HOLY people have been instigated by the owners of the central banks of the nations of our world.
Those who have used the ‘magick’ of the Zohar in direct rebellion and disobedience to the commands of God via Moses are in the grips of, controlled by, guided by, evil spirits – to include Satan himself.
Our Lord was tempted to ‘bow down and worship me’ with the nations of this world by Satan. He summarily refused that temptation. But that does not mean that persons centuries later on would likewise refuse that satanic temptation!
In order to “crush the head of Satan” and his seen human dupes, stooges and allies along with his unseen elemental minions, God has already prophecied that He would use A WOMAN and her Offspring per Genesis 3:15.
That WOMAN just so happens to be the Mother of God herself, the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Most Holy Theotokos!
IF..and that is a huge ‘if’…the Bishops of the Church perform the public and solemn Collegial Consecration of Russia ot her Immaculate Heart, the Human Race WINS this infernal spiritual battle/combat with every last evil human and spiritual enemy of ours.
If they do NOT…then our Human Race loses!
The ‘downfall of the human race’ has still NOT occured per the prophecy of St. Nilus. There is still the chance we can WIN this Global Spiritual World War vs. 6 billion human beings.
– Fr. Joseph
Duh! Must have been my guardian angel Aloysius who suggest I post those links one at a time…
A short history of the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel:
http://www.pwhs-mfi.org/newsletter/news11/prayer_michael.htm
– Fr. Joseph
The sub-section entitled ‘Rakovsky’ at
http://www.fatima.org/books/divimp/dipt2chap2.asp
– Fr. Joseph
Sub-section entitled ‘Theurgical Content of the Zohar’:
http://newadvent.org/cathen/08590a.htm
– Fr. Joseph
The Pen That Rules the World:
http://michaeljournal.org/penrules.htm
– Fr. Joseph
Other pertinent and very contemporary articles, especially with our enslaved U.S. nation coughing up endless billions worth of future generations of U.S. citizens sweat and labor in order to keep the Ruling Money Elite in the lifestyles they’ve grown accustomed to over the past century
http://michaeljournal.org/whatsnew.htm
http://michaeljournal.org/leaflets.htm
– Fr. Joseph
Fr. Joseph, I only asked you 3 specific questions… wont you try to answer them ? Thanks
Dear joshua,
Much is going on all around me in my life right about now. Family medical emergencies as well as all manner of other pressing things demanding my attention and care.
So please forgive me for apparently missing your 3 specific questions. Do me a favor, please. Could you repost those questions of yours to me here ASAP. I promise you I’ll tend to your concerns and personal pressing issue(s) as well.
Thank you.
– Fr. Joseph
Part I
RJN as an Orthodox Christian website is “pushing the envelope” with BN’s vigorous anti-Judaism evangelistic labors. It seemed necessary to articulate the ancient “patristic mind” of the Church concerning the Jews and the anti-Judaism of the Fathers, the most vocal of whom was St. John Chrysostomos.
“By temperament Chrysostomos was a maximalist and on occasion he could be harsh and severe. However, he was always an opponent of force and coercion in any form, even in the fight against heresy. He was against the use of civic measures and political pressure in matters of faith and morality.
‘‘It has been specifically forbidden for Christians to correct those who have fallen into sin by force,’ Chrysostomos said. ‘We are not fighting to bring death to the living but to bring the dead back to life, and in our struggle we must be meek and humble… I persecute not by deeds, but by words, and I want to cast out not heretics, but heresy… I am accustomed to endure oppression, but not to oppress, and to bear persecution, but not to persecute. Christ was victorious in being crucified and not in crucifying others. He did not strike out, but He accepted blows.’
“Chrysostomos endured the condemnation of those who did not think as he did, and in this respect his oration On Imprecation and Anathema is a typical expression of his attitude. He saw the true power of Christianity in meekness and endurance, not in force. It is himself with whom each man should be severe, and not with others” (p. 247, vol 7, Collected Works of Georges Florovsky).
In Greek there are two words that could be used for Jews ~Ioudaioi~ and ~(H)ebraioi~. In modern Greek, at least, “Ioudaioi” tends to be used of the Jews of the OT period, and clearly denotes the “faith” of the people, whereas “(H)ebraioi” is used to describe Jews, even today, as a “race” or ethnic grouping (i.e. Epistle to the Hebrews – directed to ethnic Christians of the circumcision).
This certainly holds true for the 5th century Greek of St. John’s homilies – Chrysostom chooses the word “Ioudaioi” – indicating their religion and not “(H)ebraioi” indicating their nationality, which should shed some light on the question of “religion” vs. “race”. In the 16th century correspondence of apologia between Patriarch Jeremiah II and the Tubingen theologians of the Lutheran Reformation Church, the scholars assured the Patriarch that in the German Church there was “no communion with the ‘Hebrews'” as rumors had circulated to Constantinople.
I do not deny, by the way, that there is much naive, unthinking, and un-Christian, racist and carnal “anti-Semitism” among groups of so-called “Orthodox Christians” who mask their own hyper-nationalism and supremist agendas, and use the symbols and teachings of the Church to underscore their own degenerate heresies and national-racial hatreds.
In the dark world of “Russian” and “Ukrainian” hardened criminals, gangs and organized crime syndicates run by criminal Jews and Tartars, these mafioso blasphemously use prison tattoos of holy icons of saints and martyrs, and images of churches encoded with a very different set of vile, perverse symbolic and allegorical unholy meanings meant to communicate things in the criminal business underworld.
The wrong views of the ultra-nationalists are, nonetheless, substantially supported by certain truthful memories, and embedded as they are in the historical consciousness of our Church. In our chronicles and martyrologies are listed the harsh and undeniable mistreatment of Christians in the primitive Early Church by the Jews outside of the book of Acts. The martyrologies record their roles in later local persecutions in various cities during periods of civil unrest and in foreign kingdoms outside of the Roman Empire.
Eastern Church and secular history records the Jews’ active military participation as Babylonian cohorts attached to the Persian army that invaded the Near East, the Byzantine province of Syria and laid seige to Jerusalem. The Palestinian Jews rose up and joined the invaders, and what followed is one of the most egregious acts of Jewish violence against Christians until the 20th century.
After Jerusalem’s capitulation to the Persians, in terms of an unlicensed Jewish rampage of murder, mayhem and wide-scale destruction of churches, monasteries and shrines, and their attached hospitals and charity houses throughout the Holy Land not including what can be attributed as war casualties, in sheer scale by modern comparison the Jews slaughtered just inside Jerusalem alone the equivalent of 1.2 million defenseless Christians.
The devastation and sacking of Byzantine Syria was something neither the Empire nor the Church were ever able to fully recover from. Western historians have come to lay the entire blame on the Persians themselves, and either minimize or avoid the role that the Jews played in their own evil history. After the Byzantines regained the Syrian territories from the Persians, in 638 AD Jerusalem capitulated to Muslim conquest after a four month seige.
In the Treaty of Umar between Patriarch Sophronios and Caliph Umar it was stipulated that no Jews would live within Aelia Capitolina, as Jerusalem was known then. The Jewish massacres of the Christians is the reason why.
It is a consciousness of which we Orthodox do not hold in common with Western Christians, who are separated canonically and historically from the Apostolic Church and their original institutional Christian roots to various degrees, and who therefore lack such memories for various political, cultural and historical reasons concerning the pernicious and perfidious Jews.
Brother Nathanael labors greatly in the Holy Spirit to share and raise “consciousness” among all of the ordinary Christian faithful of the West, warning about the spiritual cancer of the Judaizing of the Western Churches and its lethal metastasis throughout European and American history.
Christians today facing the Judaizing heresy and rampant Zionism must be able to find some ground to make a stand on. Protestants especially need to become familiar with the wisdom and clear-minded rhetoric and courage of St. John Chrysostomos (“Golden-mouthed). He was not afraid to speak to either Caesars or other Archbishops about corruption and decadency that had set in among them, as well as speaking to the consolation and chastening of his own flocks.
Chrysostomos, a great monastic athlete, came from a high-ranking Roman military family, so he was no stranger to the real and concrete things of the fallen world and sinful mankind.
“Anti-Semitism”, a modern invention of Enlightenment, Darwinian Evolution and Zionist thinking, is a not an issue with the Fathers, nor should the Christian mind be confused by this modernism in regards to the patristic teachings. It is the Fathers of the Church who are our trustworthy spiritual guides in dealing with the Christ-hating Jews, who have over the centuries changed from that of a violently anti-Christian religious and social force to a victimized people, and then cycled through again as a virulent anti-Christian agent of Satan.
The same Jews who mistreated and victimized the early Christians, and do so today, something often overlooked in contemporary thinking, have in our times been the victims of mistreatment themselves out of genetic racism, which is something the Orthodox Church does not, and cannot condone no matter how much harm the Jews have done to Christians through the centuries.
As well, it must be remembered that the Fathers of the Church view Jews as the adherents of a religion, as a spiritual entity, not merely as a race. And even when they use the word race, they also mean it in a spiritual way, not simply as we use it today. Thus “Judaizers” was an accusation made against non-Jews as well as Jews. And sinners are sometimes called a “race” just as Christians are.
These distinctions are lost on contemporary dilettantes on all sides of the “anti-Semitic” faultlines who think that the curse on the Jewish race applies exclusively to people of a single blood line, rather than to any person who, like the hypocrites of the Jewish establishment of Christ’s time, perpetuate anti-Christian sentiments.
To reemphasize, a “Jew” can be a Gentile who makes a mockery of Christianity and blasphemes the “patristic mind” and “catholic consciousness” of the Orthodox Church in particular, and the other traditional heterodox Churches with legitimate apostolic roots in general.
In this sense, those “Identity Christians” who adhere to a racial genetic “Serpent Seed” doctrine and the two alleged genetic races of Seth and Cain are just as much Judaizers as the Jews themselves, because that is only substituting a gentile Talmudism for the racist supremist bigotry of Babylonian Talmudism. “Identity Christianity” makes a blasphemous mocker and calls Jesus a liar, for “in Christ, there is neither Jew nor Gentile”.
It is obvious, then, that the term “Jew” is used in a number of very special ways in Patristic literature. One can perhaps compare the use of the term “Jew” by the Fathers to references to “Ethiopians” in the desert Fathers. This term is frequently used to describe dark spirits and demons. That the Ethiopians as a race were, at the same time, Orthodox, and that their race was adorned with Saints [prior to Chalcedon], this was a recognized fact in the Early Church. The word is used in a way that transcends race alone.
Part II
We True Christians in the Orthodox Church are called, by the Fathers, the “New Israel” and true “Israelites” as the direct spiritual heirs of the true Israel, who is Jesus Christ, because “Israel” means ~Prince of God~ or ~He will rule as God~.
In my own humble opinion this includes the “Orthodox known only to God”. These are Christians who are separated from the main Apostolic body only in this world because of historical and present circumstances, but are spiritually connected to the “New Jerusalem” in heaven. This must include everyone connected through this precious ‘Street Evangelism’ site or you wouldn’t be here loyally slogging through my blather, as I hope and pray that I don’t stick my foot in my mouth in the meantime.
If you are Jesus Christ’s, then you are a spiritual Israelite, its just that simple, but it’s not so easy to be one. The Lord made a vital distinction between a Jew and and Israelite when he said of Nathanael “Behold, an Israelite indeed, in whom is no deceit!” (John 1:47). “No deceit” implies a pure heart which is capable of recognizing Christ, and the Christ that is in the heart of oneself and others.
The Fathers who labored greatly over themselves to conform themselves to the image of Jesus Christ, based their nomenclature not on genetic race or bloodlines, but in the original sense of the witness of those first “12 Tribes of Israel”. The “New Israel” were the Christians of the circumcision in the historical Church of the Apostles, that remained unwaivering in their witness and loyalty to the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Holy Cross and the whole fulfilled Covenant of Abraham signed by the Holy Tri-une God Himself in His own Blood which the Jewish religious leaders violated and defiled, and the Jews have repeatedly done so since.
Calling any Church Father the smear “anti-Semitic” on the basis of ostensibly denigrating references to Jews, therefore, is to fall to intellectual and historiographical simple-mindedness, as is the idea of using the Fathers for propaganda supporting whatever popular agenda is being dished out. Light-minded Christians have also consciously and unconsciously fallen into this pernicious Judaizing and anti-Christian “political correctness” by blunting the Patristic force of homiletical polemics against the Jews, which were delivered primarily to Christian flocks for their correction and chastisement.
Applying modern innovations, sensitivities and terms regarding race to ancient times, as though there were a direct parallel between modern and ancient circumstances, is anachronistically inane. This abuse of history is usually advocated by unthinking observers who simply cannot function outside the cognitive dimensions of modernity.
My remarks in this regard apply not only to those who either find literal “anti-Semitism” in the Fathers, or use the Fathers to justify their own supremist racialist agendas or other anti-Christian causes. But they also apply to “liberal feminist women (and the emasculated “feminist” men with them) in our times, who, deviating from a true vision of femininity and a Christian understanding of the lofty place of the female in the Church, and restoration of a woman’s spiritual “manliness” in Christ, (a term which the Fathers sometimes describe the original created condition of Adam and Eve), are quick to characterize statements in the Fathers about the FALLEN nature of women, which are often quite harsh, as symptomatic of a general denigration of females, as though fallen males are not also brutally portrayed in the Fathers.
Fallen and unrestored nature, whatever the gender, race, or “orientation” of the individual, is corrupt and CANNOT be described in positive ways. Restored men and women are another matter, and here equality in Christ prevails, whether as regards race or gender. A clinical diagnosis of human spiritual ills is not the same thing as prescriptive racism or intolerance. To suggest this is unfair and a perversion of Christ and the godly Spirit-filled Fathers.
It is not so much that the Fathers were misogynists or racists as it is that those who find misogyny and racism in their writings are possessed by small minds, perplexed spirits, and the whimsical concerns of our age.
I am loath to loathe anything; however, such smallness is something that I abhor!
With regard to St. John Chrysostomos, there are certainly very harsh condemnations of the Jews in his writings. In the most commonly cited of these, he calls the Jews “pigs” and associates them with “drunkenness”, meaning wantoness, greed, spiritual intoxication and dissipation. Chrysostomos statements are expressions of theological and “ideological” (if I may use this somewhat inappropriate modern term) outrage over the Judaizing Christians and tendencies in his own flock, and not motivated from racism.
It speaks for itself that he also praised the Hebrew Prophets, those Jews (including the Apostles) who accepted Christianity, and even preached, like all of the Church Fathers, against the wrong or violent treatment of Jews.
Finally, the Divine Chrysostomos was a great rhetorician. Much of his language reflects the rhetorical devices of his time, not the personal antipathy which a reader jaundiced by the “nicety” of modern discourse might attribute to him. This must be remembered at all times when reading him and other Church Fathers.
Christians, in “walking the narrow way in Christ” need to throw off the Judaizing and Jew-worshipping mental and spiritual chains by fearlessly reading and studying early Eastern Fathers, especially Chrysostomos as part of our invisible war against the monstrous multi-headed spirit of the Antichrist in this age. He speaks not only to the Jew “out there”, but to the Antichrist in our own hearts, and if we are “Israelites without guile” we’ll take the reprimand and ask our Lord to cleanse away the stain of Judaizing filth we find there.
We must incinerate from our minds through the Light of Christ that unenlightened and artless theory, first put forth in the last century by eccentric (though admittedly trained) scholars and passed about today by coffee shop “scholars” whose greatest skills lie in classifying toilet tissue by gradations of softness; namely, that there is a chain of thought connecting St. John Chrysostomos, Luther, and Hitler, and that its links are cemented together by anti-Semitism, also a 19th century invention.
These things, of course, are seldom mentioned by those who want to make a racist of Chrysostomos. One exception, by the way, is an April 27, 1998, editorial in “Christianity Today” (Vol. XL, No. 5, p. 12), which makes some of the same points that I do in defending Christians against a film presented at the National Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC, a documentary that holds Christianity responsible for Nazism (an outrage which even some Jews have decried).
In so doing, the editorial offers peripheral support (amidst some ideas about Christian thought that I would question) for many of the points that I have made about our contemporary ignorance of the historical image of Jews in the ancient world, their anti-Christian sentiments and their violence against Christians, and the many ways that the Fathers of the Church used the word “Jew” in their writings and the diverse images that this usage entailed.
It is important not only that a person understands the context in which modern charges of anti-Semitism are usually raised against the Fathers (the Chrysostomos-Luther-Hitler link), but that one replies to such ignorance by pointing out the subtle complex nature of Judaizing and Antichristian hate at the heart of charges of “antiSemitism” and its own enigmatic history, and the anti-Judaism in Christian writings that the Fathers dealt with in their own times among their own flocks.
If you are confronting someone who has accused St. John Chrysostomos or any of the Fathers of “anti-Semitism”, enlightening such a person may be a difficult thing. You will face endless citations from his writings that most simply refuse to put in context.
Moreover, there are people, especially Judeo-Christians who simply refuse to relinquish the idea that anti-Semitism links Christianity, the Reformation, and The Third Reich. This comfortable view of history helps them to avoid that complexity that characterizes the true course of human experience.
It also allows them to attribute to the Fathers of the Church a meanness of spirit by which they can separate themselves from the Patristic witness and thus the compelling force of Orthodox Christianity. The only thing that one can say about such tenacious anti-Patristic polemicists is that there is a definite link, in them, between the ~hippocampi~ and the ~glutei maximi~, and this link is cemented in place by utter stupidity.
Forgive my harshness and strong language, but blasphemy which is supported by ignorance, and which gains social acceptance, is one of the most destructive forces in society.
The naked racism of some Orthodox people (which I do not endorse, and for which reason I have been ridiculed and told that I don’t “understand” as an American and a convert), however, pales, as I said above, before the putrid prejudice of those who, steeped in the hypocrisy of the modern world and its widespread historiographical disdain for the beauty of the age of the ancient Fathers, attribute to the Patristic witness the filthy racism and human denigration of human beings that belong as much, if not more, to our times and to certain heterodox Christians than to the ancient world and our Orthodox forefathers.
And whereas modern man lays claim to supposed enlightenment, yet still practices racial genocide and is beset by the worst and most evil forms of thoughtless prejudice, at least ancient man had his alleged social “primitiveness” to justify whatever injustices he may or may not have in fact embraced.
Personally, I don’t feel the need to assume the position for a butt-whuppin every time someone tosses out the charge of “antisemitism”. The Jews certainly do not feel such a need when it comes to anti-Christian statements in Jewish literature, nor when it comes to persecution against Christians in which Jews have played significant roles throughout history.
Based on the “definition” of the undefineable Antisemitism and the backing away of Judeo-Christians rump first into the briarpatch of unearned “Christian guilt” for all of the terrible things the Jews have experienced since millenia before our Lord’s incarnation, no one is more “anti-Semitic” than God Himself and His prophets, because any criticism of the sins of the Jews or of their rejection of correction, and most importantly their rejection of Christ is seen by Judaizers as antisemitic.
Judaizers are especially bothered that St. John Chrysostomos says God hates the non-believing Jews, and that so should we.
In this case, we find King David as the proto-hate monger:
“…Thou [God] hatest all workers of iniquity” (Ps 5:5)
“I have hated the congregation of evil doers; and will not sit with the wicked” (Ps 25 (26):5).
“Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate Thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against Thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies” (Ps. 138 (139): 21-22).
And God Himself says through the Prophet Hosea:
“All of their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of my house, I will love them no more…” (Hosea 9:15).
Now of course what is meant by “hate” must be properly understood, both in the Scriptures and in St. John’s homilies. Such hate is directed at the evil which sinful people do, and not really at the individuals themselves as beloved creatures of God apart from their participation in such evils.
To Fr. Joseph, ~~~ Please see post #s 8 & 9 for my three questions. ~~~ Thanks
Dear joshua,
Thank you for pointing out your questions to me.
My short, sweet and to-the-point answers for you:
1) Christ-hating Bolshevik Jews destroyed the Christian Church and Christian culture of once staunchly Christian Russia and have used the satanist Karl Marx’s atheistic collectivism and dehumanizing culture of communism through the world.
2) What forced/imposed communsim was to and for the Russian people is what secular materialism of capitalistic fractional reserve banking capitalism is to the rest of what is believed ‘The Free World’…it is the same ‘central and concentrated authority’ of godless, Christ-rejecting men and women over entire land masses of peoples of entire nation/states.
3) The Lord Himself gave His Divine Authority to His Apostles. Pope Clemente, the 4th “Pope” of His One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, used this Authority as successor to St. Peter the Apostle to settle and correct the disputes, dissentions, divisions and schisms within the Corinthian Church while St. John the Apostle was still alive and living much, much closer to Corinth.
One who have an aversion to the ‘Authority of the Office’ within His Church, I suppose, would expect St. John the Apostle to tell the Bishop of Rome to “butt out” of the affairs of a Church so far away, telling the Bishop of Rome that he had no authority or jurisdiction over the “independent” Corinthian Church.
– Fr. Joseph
“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn their ears away from the truth. and shall be turned into fables.”
Dear Fr. Joseph, thanks for your time and your reply, but I remain in respectful disagreement. Counter-points to follow :
1) The Russian Church has OBVIOUSLY NOT been destroyed… the Church in the West under the Vatican is in MUCH worse shape IMO…
2) “If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him NOT into your house, neither biddeth him Godspeed : for he that biddeth him Godspeed is partaker of his evil deeds”
3) The Eastern Orthodox Church does not recognize the INFALLABLE AUTHORITY of the Pope, and neither do I… there is NO scriptural basis for a Pope to exist.
Br. Nathanal, sorry about the short posts, that seems to be the only way I can get through… may I ask YOUR OPINION on the subject of Fatima ? ~~~~ Thanks !
Dear Joshua – You wrote: “There is NO scriptural basis for a Pope to exist.”
You are quite wrong here. The New Testament puts forth: The hierarchical system of Christ’s Holy Church consists of deacons, priests (presbyters), and Bishops.
St Irineos, a disciple of St Polycarp, Bishop of Smyrna, (Smyrna is mentioned in the 1st Chapter of Revelation, “to the Church of Symrna” and its “angel,” the Bishop, — and St Polycarp was a disciple of St John the Evangelist who wrote the 1st Gospel, — St Irineos lists a succession of Bishops (popes which means “father”) of Rome.
The “popes” that is, the “bishops” of Rome were always considered FIRST AMONG EQUALS in the collegium of Bishops throughout the Roman and Byzantine world.
The Orthodox Church honors many “popes” of Rome as Saints up to the schism of 1054 AD:
St Sylvester, St Leo, St Gregory the Dialogist, are only a few papal Saints of the Orthodox Church. You really are not well informed regarding the Church for you to make such an obvious ill informed statement. +BN
So… Popes an Bishops are the same thing ? ~~~~ Who then, is the Pope for the East (Russin/Serbian/Greek) ?
Dear joshua,
Our Lord taught us all to address His Eternal Divine Father in Heaven with a prayer which begins with the words ‘OUR FATHER’.
Our Lord spoke Arameic.
The tender, trusting and familiar word in Arameic a son addresses to his father is ‘ABBA’.
In English, little boys call their fathers by the names of ‘Daddy’ or ‘Papa’.
We derive ‘Dada’ and ‘Papa’ from the Arameic ‘ABBA’.
The word ‘POPE’ is derived from ‘PAPA’ which is the equivalent of ‘DAD’ which are both derived from the Lord’s language of Arameic ‘ABBA’.
– Fr. Joseph
Dear joshua,
Time to ask of you answers to two quick questions…
First, regarding Fatima. What do you understand about the Fatima Message?
Secondly, who is your Pastor and what is the address to your congregation’s place of meeting?
– Fr. Joseph
Dear Fr. Joseph, thank you for your time… some prefer to ignore me, perhaps taking me wrong, ~~~~ I invite correction !
I have prayed for the wellness of you & your family, and I FEEL your concern for me ! ~~~~ Thank You !
Answers to Fr. Joseph’s questions… ~~~~ 1) I feel that IF there was a miracle, the Pope changed the message, inserting Russia where he should have said “USA”
2) Right now, I consider Jesus to be my Pastor, and the Congregation is in me… ~~~~ I’m LOST !
Dear joshua,
No individual deserves to be “ignored” as we are all created in the Image and Likeness of God Who Is Father, Son and Holy Spirit – an Eternal Divine COMMON-UNITY of Three Distinct Persons all sharing in One COMMON Divine Nature.
So there ya go, joshua, you and I and every last living person on this planet earth of ours NEEDS the presense and exchanges of another and others in order to make manifest the actual living experience of these lives God has so gracious granted to each and every last one of us.
There is but reason as to why others may “ignore” a person – and that reason is that other person’s obstinate refusal to join and actively participate in a real human community of people desirous of living these lives of ours to their fullest.
– Fr. Joseph
Dear joshua,
Thank you for your prayers and concern. Your human spirit is still “alive and kickin'”
– Fr. Joseph
Dear joshua,
For your information – an on-line video documentary on Fatima entitled “Heaven’s Key To Peace” @
http://www.fatimaondemand.org/cat-doc.htm
– Fr. Joseph
Dear joshua,
There is NO REASON why you have to feel “Lost”! None whatsoever!
Now I’m counselling you as an ordained Priest in His Church, and it was the Lord Himself Who beckoned me to accept ordination into His Church’s Priesthood!
Go to any Catholic Church. Take yourself over to what is known as ‘The Tabernacle’ now usually held to one of the sides of the Church building. The constantly light RED votive candle hung or displayed will be near to the Tabernacle.
Simply go there in front of the Tabernacle, sit yourself down, relax…and then in the privacy of your mind and heart, you make ‘Darn Sure’ you tell the Lord about anything and everything – your doubts, confusions…anything and everything!
Then ask for Him to grant you the Divine Graces and Helps so as to more perfectly follow HIS Calling upon you and your life.
And, yes, you can simply sit there in His Presence and NOT feel ‘lost’ as well for as long as you wish or desire.
– Fr. Joseph
I am a Indian poet. I am fain of Ho’nrable President Mr.Barack Obama.My Current poem Barack Obama here.
Barack Obama
Barack Obama!
This is not only your victory in America.
This is Victory of People of America.
This victory of his largest heart
This victory of Mahatma Gandhi and Nelson Mandela.
You know change is the Rules of nature
Without any change structure of the world
Is not complete and fare.
After long time
People are know, man is only man
Not white man or not black man
Blackness or whiteness is only shadow
Of our mind and works.
It is must be compulsory our thought/idea
White,clear and ideal
Just like you Barack obama !
Our life is experimental
“Experiment with truth”
This is name of Mahatama Ghandhi’s book
I see Mahatma Ghandhi on your face
With great ‘Geeta’ in his hand.
Now your hand is big power
This time of your examination period
Please use this power for protection
of humanity.
Please don’t misuse it.
It is necessary for golden history of world
In future.
So take care Barack Obama
And remember this! – Surendra Raghuwanshi
@Joshua,
The same invitation is extended to visit the Lord at the Orthodox Church, too. Our tabernacles are kept in the Sanctuary, but there is always a pair of icons on what is called the ~iconostasis~, one of our Lord Jesus Christ Pantocrator (Lord of All) to the right of the Holy Gates to the Sanctuary as you face it, and an icon of the Virgin Mary Theotokos (God-bearer) holding the Child Jesus on the left side. Icons act like ‘windows’ into the spiritual world, so they don’t look like art in the worldly sense.
Did you know that Joshua = Jesus in Hebrew?
You can also google ‘Byzantine Orthodox Christian icons’ and see what you would be seeing in an Orthodox Church, just to get an idea.
Righteous Joshua is a canonized saint
September 1
10th century icon Prophet Joshua of Nun
http://www.skete.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=587&Category_ID=37
Modern icon Prophet Jesus of Navi (Nun)
http://www.archangelsbooks.com/proddetail.asp?prod=HTM%2DA234
Reading:
Prophet Jesus (Joshua) of Navi, Soldier of God, Commander of the Host, was born of the tribe of Ephraim in Egypt, in the seventeenth century before Christ. When he was eighty-five years of age, he became Moses’ successor. He restrained the River Jordan’s flow and allowed the Israelites to cross on foot. He caused the sun to stop in its course when he was waging war against the Amorites. He divided the Promised Land among the Twelve Tribes of Israel and governed them for twenty-five years. He wrote the Old Testament book that bears his name, and having lived 110 years in all, he reposed in the sixteenth century before Christ. His name means “God saves.”
Apolytikion in the Second Tone (don’t worry about this part. Identifies it as a chant.)
As we celebrate the memory of Thy Prophet Joshua, O Lord, through him we beseech Thee to save our souls.
Kontakion in the Fourth Tone (title of chant. Plain spoken ok)
At thy prayer, the sun stood still, O righteous Jesus; for thou rightly wast adorned both with the likeness and the name of Him at Whose death the sun grew dark. Ever entreat Him to save us who honour thee.
@Fr. Joseph
Lovely icons for you!
http://www.archangelsbooks.com/proddetail.asp?prod=HTM%2DA77&cat=112
http://www.comeandseeicons.com/j/inp109.htm
Patriarch Joseph the All-Comely
His story is found in Genesis 37 -50. He was the most beloved of his father’s 12 sons. His brothers abandoned him to die in a pit, then the eldest sold him into slavery secretly. He was imprisoned in Egypt after being falsely accused. After he interpreted the Pharoah’s dream, he became vice-regent in Egypt and saved his whole clan along with all of Egypt from starvation through a 7 year famine. His bones were carried back to the Promised Land and buried.
This Icon is by the hand of Nicholas Papas. It is from St. George Antiochian Orthodox Church, Oakland, PA.
Joshua son of Nun was of the tribe of Ephraim. Ephraim was one of Joseph’s two sons. Ephraim was also the symbolic name for Israel in the OT.
@Joshua,
Knowing you are lost is knowing a lot! But our Lord Jesus knows where you are. And, lo! He has sent a heavenly saint your way, Righteous Joshua ben Nun ben Ephraim ben Joseph ben Jacob.
Fr. Joseph, & KathJuliane… I had already decided that a return to Orthodoxy, as ALL Catholics should do… it’s a NO-BRAINER !
When the Pope endorsed the Seven Noachide Laws for all of us, he became the ENEMY of Christians everywhere !
Dear joshua,
The ONLY thing yet causing the dissention and division of the Church with respect to ‘Catholicism’ and ‘Orthodoxy’ is the primacy of the Bishop of Rome.
It’s just that some people, many people, feel ‘secure and safe’ by ensuring they have an ‘enemy’ even when the other(s) aren’t a real or the true enemy.
Truly, for many, it is of the utmost importance to render others ‘enemies’ for the simple fact that it gives that person or that group of people an excuse from making the conscious effort to be of some sort of overt acceptance and mutual assistance to the larger human community, be that human community a family, a neighborhood, a city, state, nation and even Church!
There are over 27,000 Protestant denominations in our world today, yet the only thing I see the Orthodox constantly pinging upon is their vehemently rejecting attitude of the Bishop of Rome! And all of the 27,000 Protestant denominations say nothing about the Orthodox Church yet they, too, constantly ping upon their vehement rejection of the authority of the Bishop of Rome as well!
For some strange reason, people tend to prefer making enemies of others than to simply accept and act upon Divine Revelation. If our Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant Churches Canon of Sacred CHRISTIAN Scripture has our One and Same Lord giving the Keys to Peter and that none of the other Apostles rejected Peter as their leader even at the Jerusalem Council, then why do the Orthodox and Protestants make such a big deal about the role of the Bishop of Rome in the Divine Plan of our Savior and Lord?
– Fr. Joseph
Dear KathJuliane,
Thank you for those links to icons of St. Joseph.
And I, too, want to see 6 billion human beings here on earth FED with an outpouring of God the Holy Spirit, but I don’t have either the ‘position’ or ‘authority’ to make that happen.
Only the public and solemn Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of God the Holy Spirit’s Divine Spouse, the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Most Holy Theotokos, by the Bishops of His Church here on earth can possibly make THAT happen.
But if the Bishops of the Church, either those of Orthodoxy or Catholicism, refuse to utilize their consecrations as Bishops (with the fullness of Christ’s Priesthood’s Authority here on earth) along with the Bishop of Rome to do that which the Mother of the Church has asked them to do nearly 100 years ago at Fatima, Portugal for the spiritual sake of our world’s 6 billion human inhabitants, our Human Race will be literally spiritually starved to death.
– Fr. Joseph
Dear Fr. Joseph, ~~~ You vigorously defend the Pope, but you have NEVER addressed the Seven Noachide Laws, though I mentioned them thrice…
Also, Father… according to my research – the Pope consecrated the WHOLE WORLD… then shortly after that, in 1952… Russia SPECIFICALLY was consecrated, so… ?
Joshua,
Tell me which one of what are referred to as Noachide Laws do you strenously object?
Here is a list of 7 Noachide Laws:
http://www.noahide.org
Then, others come up with 30 Noachide Laws:
http://www.noachide.org.uk/html/30_noachide.org
If all the nominal Jews living in the political states of either Israel or the United States of America, there is no doubt our entire world and human society would be much better off.
Write all the laws one wants, but if one’s mind and heart aren’t honest and forthright in keeping them, they are worthless.
So the Pope public tells the Jews of this world of ours they are SUPPOSED to abide by the Noachide Laws…and they don’t…so why do you dump on the Pope therefore?
The Orthodox don’t see any value in what the Bishop of Rome has to say. The Protestants of 27,000 denominatiosn don’t see any value in what the Bishop of Rome has to say. And the Jews don’t see any value in what the Bishop of Rome has to say. Nor do those of Islam or, for that matter, any other religion in our world today.
So why not simply give the Pope a wee bit of your compassion and say a prayer for him, okay?
– Fr. Joseph
Correction:
If all the nominal Jews living in the political states of Israel and the United States of America OBEYED and FAITHFULLY made a public living display of living their lives per the Noachide Laws, there is no doubt our entire world and human society would be much better off.
– Fr. Joseph
Joshua,
Sorry, but even Pope John Paul II pubicly admitted the Collegial Consecration has not yet been done.
– Fr. Joseph
Joshua,
There is this little tale in Christian circles about a young Jewish lad who comes to the discovery that the Messiah has come and goes off to tell this good news to his Rabbi.
The young Jewish lad rushes into his Rabbi’s office excitedly proclaiming to his Rabbi “Rabbi! Rabbi! The Messiah has come!”
The old Rabbi gets up from his chair, goes over to his office’s window, looks out onto the peoples of the neighborhoods of his huge metropolitian city, and replies to the young Jewish lad, “I see no difference.”
That same Messiah is recorded as saying the following in one of the Gospel accounts of the Church’s own Canon of Sacred Christian Scirpture:
“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord’ and not do what I say?”
This Saying of the Messiah is meant to be considered and contemplated upon by every last one of the 6 billion people currently living on this planet earth of His own creating.
– Fr. Joseph
Fr. Joseph, you are NOT GETTING IT ! ~~~ Read Br. Nathanael’s article entitled : ‘Pope affirms Zionist Noahide Laws in NYC’
These Laws are NOT FOR JEWS, THEY ARE FOR ALL GENTILES (ALL OF US) !! ~~~ They will force Christians, etc to adhere to Talmudic Judaism !
The Law against Blasphemy – is Blasphemy Against Judaism, the Law against Idolatry means YOU – Jews consider Christianity to be Idolatry ! ~~~ ALL are punishable by DECAPITATION !
Anyone NOT familiar with the Seven Noachide Laws who thinks they are innocent – should visit : http://www.Come-and-Hear.com to be enlightened, then tell EVERYONE YOU KNOW !
To Joshua:
I have been interrupted from my dedicated prayer time to deal with your accusations against me.
I have NOT been moderating this site since last Wednesday. I have delegated that duty to a close friend of mine while on my “prayer retreat.”
I was alerted that you started accusing me of being a Zionist spy simply because you were offended that your post stating that George Bush was a “secret Jew” was deleted.
My friend, please listen to what I am going to say to you. When someone says something that it so utterly and obviously STUPID like you stating that George Bush is really a “secret Jew” that comment by and sane person will be immediatly DELETED.
Last week when I was on moderation, someone posted that Putin was “actually a Jew.” That comment was immediately, like your STUPID comment, DELETED.
Two weeks ago, YOU, started bashing my good friend, Mark Glenn, and his Web Site, The Ugly Truth, and because I DELETED YOUR SLANDERS AGAINST HIM AND HIS VERY FINE WEB SITE, your comments were DELETED. Then you out of spite began accusing me of being a “spy for the Jews.”
I resented it, but allowed you to continue with your comments, some of which I disagree with, or are so utterly ill-informed, that I have to come on and spend my precious time, trying to give you an education in Orthodoxy 101, a subject that you have yet to learn in its elementary components.
I was also alerted that you continue to use different and several email addresses, as though I was really a Zionist spy, as you have been regularly accusing me of.
If you accuse me ONE MORE TIME of being a Zionist spy, when *MY LIFE IS NOW IN DANGER,* I promise, YOU WILL NEVER POST ON REAL JEW NEWS AGAIN. And I keep my promises.
I hope you know that you are wasting my time, and I will NOT tolerate your accusations against me nor YOUR STUPID comments for one second more. And that’s a promise. +BN
My dear brother joshua,
We are conscious beings with emotions. Human beings are created by an All-Loving God in order to experience both understanding (via our minds) and compassion (via our ‘hearts’).
When one operates on pure intellect without feelings, we then become ‘heartless’.
When one operates on pure emotions without rational thought and conscious understanding, we become ‘hare-brains’.
The DECALOGUE spoken to the Hebrews via Moses on Mount Sinai which was meant to be taught to ALL PEOPLES of our world via God’s ‘The Ten Commandments’ can be considered Divine Instruction to any and all peoples of any nation/state in our world as a ‘Divine Primer’ in HOW TO have a truly HUMANE society where in human beings can shift their conscious attention AWAY FROM being ‘survival-of-the-fittest’ ANIMALS to a community of incarnate spirits created in the Image and Likeness of God HImself so as to develope and enter into a Spiritual Relationship WITH God…a Spiritual Relationship consisting of a CHILD and CHILDREN with their All-Loving and All-Good Almighty FATHER in Heaven!
Compare the substance of the Noachide Laws to that of the Universally Applicable Ten Commandments in God’s Decalogue with Moses for the Hebrew peoples on Mt. Sinai.
If a Jewish RABBI tells his Zionist congregation they are NOT TO STEAL, that is the equivalent of a Catholic or Orthodox Priest or Bishop telling Zionists they are NOT TO STEAL because BOTH the Jewish Rabbi and/or the Catholic-Orthodox Clergy are citing God’s Divine Will as He expressed it in His Own Decalogue!
The Ten Commandments are universally VALID for every last Jew, every last Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant Christian, every last Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim as well as for every last Masonic, Skull and Bones Secret Society member, the Roscicrucians, every last Occult/Satanic/Hermetic Order that currently exists in our world today!
When a Catholic BISHOP has to tell JEWS that they are to hold to and LIVE according to God’s Commandments, Instruction and Revelation, he is doing so with CHRIST’S OWN DIVINE AUTHORITY!
So, the Spirit of Christ Who has worked and is working in the life of Pope Benedict XVI is giving GOD’S Instructions to JEWS in New York City, in Washington D.C. and the entire world over to get back to their Hebrew roots, to the instructions and commands of MOSES and the teachings of the Torah!
And when JEWS get back to complying with the moral dictates of the TORAH, then from that same Torah they will learn from Moses that they are ALL to listen to the Promised Messiah Who has ALREADY COME to and for them all!
– Fr. Joseph
My dear brother joshua,
Please consider the following regarding your concern about ‘decapitation’ at the hands of Zionist Talmudic Jews…
This ‘decapitation’ that you are currently so concerned about HAS BEEN GOING ON since the time the Christian nobility of Europe along with the tacit permission of the Bishops of the Church having turned over the control of their Christian nations and states CURRENCY and MONETARY SYSTEMS to Jews.
Go look at and study as your ‘Lectio Divina’ the PICTURES of the bodies of military men and civilians who have been KILLED, MAIMED and ‘DECAPITATED’ in World War 1, World War 2, the Korean War, the Viet Nam War, the Iraqi and Afgani Wars, the Palestinian HOLOCAUST since 1948 A.D.
And you are so worried that some Rabbis are going to come to your house to drag YOU out and butcher you off!
So ‘BIG DEAL’ that they come to your home and drag your out to their synagogue and SKIN YOU ALIVE…’Big Deal!’…
“When they take you before synagogues and magistrates and authorities, do not worry about how to defend yourselves or what to say, because when the time comes, the HOLY SPIRIT will teach you want you must say.”
– Jesus – THE MESSIAH – Luke 12:11-12
We are NOT ‘to fear’ those who can but only ‘kill the body’. We are to ‘SAVE OUR FEAR’ for the One Who can thrown both body and soul/spirit into the ETERNAL FIRES OF HELL!
Besides, have you forgotten that there is a ‘Resurrection of the dead’ and ‘The Life of the World To Come’?
– Fr. Joseph
To Joshua – I have completed my prayer time.
I am back on line @ Real Jew News.
I have NEVER moderated anything for The Ugly Truth as you just accused me of tampering with my good friend Mark Glenn’s site.
I want you to take a break for a while and reconsider your spitefulness and Unchristian attitude. If you continue with spiteful comments you WILL NEVER comment on Real Jew News again. +BN
Dear joshua,
Truly, there comes many times in our lives we ALL need to do an ‘Examination of Conscience’ for the simple sake of examing whether or not we are using these human, incarnate spiritual natures of ours “to their fullest” as Intended and Desired by our God and our Creator.
With respect to ‘Noachide Laws’, I trust that you understand that the moral and spiritual precepts, that is to say, the spiritual ‘substance’ of those few Laws, is derived from the Decalogue (i.e. The Ten Commandments) received by Moses from God on Mt. Sinai.
Did or did not Jesus Himself cause His listeners of His Time here on earth to likewise personally reflect on and consider the spiritual ‘substance’ of these Noachide Laws derived from the Decalogue God gave to Moses? Yes He did…please refer to the Church’s own Canon of Sacred CHRISTIAN Scripture, the Gospel according to St. Matthew, Matthew 19-18-19.
Despite whatever these Zionists think, whether they be Masonic, Talmudic Kabbalist, Gnostic, ‘Christian’ or linked to some manner of Jewish heritage or family ancestory, the TEN COMMANDMENTS and the derived Noachide Laws personally and directly apply to each and every last one of them regardless of the size of their bank accounts, their amassed securities porfolios, their real estate empires, their political affiliation and/or their political office and position here in these United States, in the United Kingdom or in Israel or, for that matter, ANY political nation/state currently in existance on this planet earth of His Creating and His Maintaining.
Unless contemporary Rabbis perfer NOT to read, study, consider and contemplate on the Book of Moses known as Deuteronomy and which is in ‘The Torah’, Moses himself tells all JEWS in our world today in Deuteronomy 18:15-19 that Almighty God Himself would send to them all another Prophet speaking God’s Mind, God’s Thoughts and God’s Desires for them and all of Mankind as well.
This Anointed One, this ‘Messiah’, this Kristos, this CHRIST spoke to the Jews of His time telling them all that HE HIMSELF was the Prophet, the Person, that Moses spoke about as coming to them in the Gospel of St. John, John 5:45-47.
And ‘Examination of Conscience’ does no good to and for anyone IF we have predisposed ourselves TO DENY what is True and what is Truth.
Jesus, The Christ, spoke and taught at some lenght to a Catholic visionary by the name of Nancy Fowler of Conyers, Georgia in the late 80’s on and about ‘The Ten Commandments’. Here is His Lecture, Divine Command by Divine Command per her recording:
http://www.ourlovingmother.org/Messages_TenCommandments.aspx
Again, if these Universally Applicable Divine Commands were acted upon and enacted by our World’s 6 billion human beings, there would have been no need for God to inform His visionaries, His apparitionists, His human ‘mouthpieces’ that He is so angered with the rampant and global immorality and sinfulness of our human race that He fully intends to “wipe the human race from the face of the earth” AGAIN!
– Fr. Joseph
Dear joshua,
I see from Brother Nathanael’s publicly posted remarks to you here that as a religious Brother of the Russian Orthodox Church, he is summoning YOU to the spiritual exercise and spiritual discipline of an ‘Examination of Conscience’.
Please do take Brother Nathanael’s spiritual counsel, as one of God’s COMMANDMENTS to you and to ALL OF US is found in THE TORAH book of Exodus, Exodus 20:16 which reads as follows, and I am quoting here:
“You SHALL NOT bear false witness against your neighbor.”
Brother Nathanael is simply doing what THE LORD told His disciples to do, and I am now quoting verbatim what God Incarnate Himself said:
“If your brother does something WRONG, go and have it out with him alone, between your two selves. If he listen to you, you have won back your brother. If he does NOT listen, take one or two others along with you; the evidence of two or three witnesses is required to sustain any charge. But if he REFUSES to listen to these, report it to the Community; and if he REFUSES to listen to the Community, TREAT HIM LIKE A PAGAN OR TAX COLLECTOR!” Jesus Christ Himself – the Gospel of St. Matthew, Matthew 18:15-17
So, please….do RECONSIDER what it is that you have done to and with Brother Nathanael – an honest and sincere ‘Examination of Conscience’ – and make the proper and correct amends to Brother Nathanael.
Such an act/action on ALL of our parts to undo the wrong we’ve done to others “wins” us God’s Blessings and obtains for us a Measure of His Spiritual Grace to and for our minds, hearts, souls and spirits.
– Fr. Joseph