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WILL ISRAEL SURVIVE?
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“A LAND WITHOUT PEOPLE and a people without a land,” was the lying slogan of the Zionist founders of Israel.
But the truth is that the Palestinian-Zionist conflict is rooted in the Jewish seizure of Arab territories and lands.
The Zionist founders, such as Chaim Weizmann & David Ben Gurion, fully grasped that turning an Arab land into a Jewish state was by importing a huge foreign population of Jews into regions owned & occupied by Palestine’s indigenous inhabitants.
The Zionist founders understood that in the parlance of time, a nascent Jewish state must “transfer” – – (by force, as they knew it was necessary) – – large numbers of Arab households away from those areas designated as their “Jewish homeland.”
The main argument for a “Jewish homeland,” taken up by both Jewish & Christian Zionists, is that: “God promised the land to the Jews.” Thus, as the argument has it, the Jews own the land between Egypt & Syria by “divine right.”
The second argument for a “Jewish homeland,” taken up this time by atheistic Jews, is that Jews are continually persecuted in Gentile nations and therefore they must have a “homeland” of their own. The events of WW II are still exploited today by Jews as their “oh-we-are-so-persecuted” calling card.
LET’S LOOK AT the first argument. This states that God gave the land of Palestine to the Jews. Here it must be clearly understood that the ancient “nation of Israel,” as designated by the God of the Bible, had its validation only by its faithfulness to God’s plan of salvation.
Thus, the true “Israel of God,” as St Paul states in his Epistle to the Galatians, is the Christian Church – – made up of those who have truly embraced God’s plan of salvation through Jesus the Messiah.
“Neither in Jerusalem nor in Samaria is the locus for the worship of God,” said Jesus Christ, “but wherever God is worshipped in Spirit and in truth.” Therefore the idea of a “Jewish homeland” is Biblically false.
NOW LET’S LOOK AT at the second argument. This states that Jews and Gentiles cannot get along, and thus, Jews must have their own homeland. But a nagging question remains: “Has this problem been solved by the Jews? – Or have they actually made it worse?
Worse. Everybody knows it but are afraid to admit it for ‘fear of the Jews.’ Violence against the Arab population in IsraHell continues unabated. And IsraHell has imported their violence around the globe: to Iraq, to Georgia, and now, closer & closer, to Iran. Many are of the opinion, (an educated one at that), that the Israelis were the perpetrators of 9/11.
Is God an accomplice to the ‘Jewish Homeland’s’ murders & world wide militarism? What kind of ‘Israel of God’ is this that the Jews are claiming to be? A murderous, vengeful people, hell bent on destroying every new enemy that appears on the scene daily?
No – the true “Israel of God,” the Church, is called to bring healing to the world. “God is not mocked, whatsoever a man sows that shall he also reap,” the Bible says.
A Nation Such As This Cannot & Will Not Survive.
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Brother Nathanael @ September 19, 2008
I am a Russian Jew who fully supports the complete dismantlement of the criminal Zionist state of IsraHell.
It has no right to continue to exist and destroy Arab lives and land so that it can then claim to be “God’s chosen.”
The Zionists are a criminal, fascistic, elitist clique of psychopaths.
Brother Nathanael,
When our Lord entered Jerusalem on the back of the ass, the rabbis of the time exhorted Him to silence the crowd which hailed Him as the Annointed One. He said only that the stones would speek on His behalf. How right He was (how could He be otherwise?). Is it not His promise that He would be forever with us that is the only means that could melt even a petrified jewish heart? And you, dear Brother Nathanael are the most glaring example that I know (excepting the Apostle Paul)of the fact that the Spirit blows wherever He wants. Of course, we know that since He came to save this sinful world, there is no more Jew or Gentile, Greek or Scythian. I believe that God gave you the power to speak the Truth. And yes, Russia is part of the Garden of the Mother of God, as it was proven so often. And yes that’s why Russia is hated with that hellish determination. And not only Russia, all Orthodox countries are under the “cherem” of the Khazars. But we know that God will consume the lawless one with the breath of His mouth and will destroy him with His Epiphany.
So help us God,
Vlad
“Thus, the true “Israel of God,” as St Paul states in his Epistle to the Galatians, is the Christian Church – – made up of those who have truly embraced God’s plan of salvation through Jesus the Messiah.” BN
TRUE!! The “Jews” are NOT “Israel of God” because _they broke the covenant_ by rejecting the Messiah and having him murdered. The new Covenant was that our Messiah shed his innocent blood (the Lamb of God) as a sin offering (sacrifice/Holocaust) on our behalf so that anyone who believed in Him would be forgiven, and so that there would be no more need for any other sacrifice as He was the ultimate and final one.
Since the “Jews” rejected our Messiah and therefore rejected the New Covenant, AND they have (once again!) slid into pagan practice (reading/teaching from the Babylonian Talmud and practicing the witchcraft in the Cabala) they have disobeyed God and are therefore in SIN and outside of the New Covenant.
They can ONLY come back to him by accepting the Messiah and turning away from those wicked, heathen practices.
Because of this, and because God had told them that they were in exile _because of their sins_ (heathen Talmud and Cabala, & rejecting Messiah), they are NOT allowed to return to the Promise Land as a “nation.” GOD will be the One to arrange it for them, and ONLY when they repent and come back within the New Covenant by accepting the Messiah!
This is why Zionism is Satanic – it presupposes that _man_ can arrange things for himself and they are a) too prideful to bend their stiff necks in repentance (Talmud states that our Messiah is boiling in human excrement in Hell!) and b) that they don’t “need” God to have the Holy Land once again, they can just steal it from the “goy”! In their wicked Talmud, this is a perfectly acceptable action, as they are actually _encouraged_ to steal, like and cheat us “goy”!!
Instead of helping the Jews, this in fact opens them up even further to the wrath of God and His punishment!
The Zionist Jews and duped Christians like to conflate the ideas that “Jews are our older brothers,” that God gave Jews (Hebrews) the Holy land, and “those who bless you will be blessed; those who curse you will be cursed” into one all-encompassing edict to never criticize either any Jew, Zionism and in particular the illegitimate “state” of Israel. They have been instructed that criticism = cursing. That, of course is madness and is not of God!
One more thing, slightly but not totally OT: BN – Are you aware that the Sanhedrin is now reconvened in “Israel”?? Apparently, they are wanting to reintroduce animal sacrifice!!
I once asked a Talmudic Jew friend of mine why the Jews stopped sacrificing animals. Her answer (get this!) was “Because it was so messy.” What a feat of cognitive dissonance~
Oops, I made a typo in the previous post…
“In their wicked Talmud, this is a perfectly acceptable action, as they are actually _encouraged_ to steal, like and cheat us “goy”!!” – SHOULD have said…”to steal, LIE TO and cheat us “goy”!! (CAPS added in correction just to make it stand out, not for original emphasis)
EVEN if their claims (at leas tas believed by them) were true, it HAD to take the lie mixed with truth of the “holocaust” to get a world to go along with a “religion” co opting a
region of land from someone else.
Think of an Islamic sect, or ALL Islam
claiming Texas as their own because it said so
in the Koran!
Would the world go along with it?
Maybe if they had a “holocaust” and Arabs owned all the media in the Western world.
Maybe.
Something tells me that the evil Jew/Zionist are the type group that would distroy it rather then give it up. We all know the type, “if I can’t have it then nobody can”.
BN …who do you write to any more to complain about excessive jew/zioninst influence? I live in WI, the great state of judaism………..2 jewish US senators…i weep all the time that I have N0 represtation….
@Dimitri
Who did you support Russia or Georgia?
Do you oppose Israel because it’s bad PR for Jews or because it’s a centre for sex trafficking, organised crime and haven to these Russian oligarchs which are connected to organised crime.
Do you support the nation state or are you an international Jew?
Are most Jews loyal to the nation state or to Israel?
Evidence like the former oligarchs in Russia or Kasparov or the Neocons in the US would suggest otherwise.
World leaders are to address the UN which is the only way we get the true picture of what world leaders are and what they say.
Case in point is the Iranian pres interview on 60 minutes.
Everyone one is waiting in anticipation to the Iranian pres speech but I’m looking forwad to Medvedev’s and Georgian pres address.
Hopefully Medvedev will present the evidence to US, Israel and Georgia planned and attacked South Ossetia first. which the OSCE, UN general and Der Spiegel back.
I hope intelligence documents, video footage of captured US mercenaries are shown in a presentation.
Russia already released captured photos of US instructors training Georgian forces in sabotage techniques.
Then well see the Georgian president bumbling and complaining about Russian aggression blah, blah, blah.
News media although won’t cover all of Russia’s or Iranian leaders statement just sound bites.
Shouldn’t the state of Israel exist so New Jeruselum comes from the sky?
Not that I support Israel but natural progression as laid out in the bible.
Brother Nathanael I’ll send you an email enquiring how to send you a cheque via mail in the UK.
Dear James1 –
The New Jerusalem from heaven will intiate the new heavens and the new earth as promised & envisioned in Isaiah 66 and at the end of the Book Of Revelation of St John.
The New Jerusalem thus has nothing to do with this age and the earthly things of this age. +BN
Will Israel Survive ???
Well, let’s see….with this kind of attitude :watch a video below and be the judge.
Israeli abuse – We killed Jesus & We’re Proud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU
How can a soul full of hate be saved?
Dear Jews, GOD is LOVE and CHRIST is your MESSIAH ….WAKE UP and embrace HIM until is not to late. Amen!
To all of you present in this forum,
I invite you to visit Salvation Mountain located @ SLAB City NILAND, California to find out how a none-believer became a believer and able to humble himself in front of everyone.
Salvation Mountain (news segment)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zf_lQaQS6o
Have a wonderful camp to this place if you have the opportunity.
Jesus will again help the jews when the time of the gentiles are fulfilled. He didn’t cast them off forever !!!!!
youtube.com/goldieshome
@Nick – Soldier in the Army of Christ
Jesus Christ at one time used to be a Jewish supremacist I believe telling a Syrian women to get lost when she asked for help.
It would be good to know the politics and how much influence they wielded in the Roman Empire.
Biblical tales tell us what they did to Egypt and Syria celebrated in there Purim festival.
All Jews are not Zonist, Do you see how the jewish people are treated, The Zonist run them out of their home, And dont have a place prepared for them to live.
Temporary darkness has come over the Jews, Until the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled, Theres nothing that is happening in the world without GOD’S approval.
Bad as it seems to us, His ways
are far above anything we can even think, The jews are where they are supposed to be at this time,the Moslems are an enemy of the cross, as well as the rest of the unbeleving world,JESUS CHRIST
can take care of everything without our help.
GOD bless
Rob
Mason’s making a move in Israel, and a closer look at the Road Map.
Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2005
– written by jerry golden
This picture was taken by a friend while in Eilat recently. It is on the road that crosses the border and one of the first things a visitor sees when coming from Egypt into Israel. I have written about the involvement of Freemasonry in the Israeli Government mainly through the Supreme Court and the Knesset. But this makes a clear statement to anyone crossing the border into Israel that the Illuminati (or freemasons) are in control here.
Story……Here
Picture……Here
Dear Lawrence Robertson –
All Christians are called to be “co-workers” with God. You simply do NOT know the Holy Scriptures.
To correctly understand the Holy Scriptures, the Orthodox Christian Church instructs us to read the Church Fathers, such as St John Chyrsostom and St Cyril of Alexandria.
These great Patristic teachers and their writings are available by Googling “Nicene Fathers Series.”
Also, I deleted your Gog & Magog comment as referring to Russia. This is so stupid.
“Gog & Magog” is figurative for those who are enemies of the Church.
This interpretation CANNOT be proven exept by amateurish works, (which you obviously are influenced by), such as Hal Lindsey’s shallow, “Late Great Planet Earth.”
+Brother Nathanael Kapner
Russian Orthodox Christian
Dear James1 –
Please be very careful in making any false assertions about our Lord & Saviour, Jesus Christ, the Eternal Son of God Who became man for our salvation.
Jesus Christ was NOT a Jewish Supremicist. Just the fact that He was speaking with the “hated” Samaritans PROVES otherwise.
Jesus Christ was making a LEADING statement to the Samaritan woman at the Well, so as to engage her in dialogue.
Be careful, James1. Do NOT venture to criticize Jesus Christ, the Judge of the living and the dead. Be very careful…
+Brother Nathanael Kapner
Russian Orthodox Christian
Regarding “Until The Fullness Of The Gentiles Comes In” (Romans 11)
I have memorized almost the entire book of St Paul’s Epistle to the Romans.
I have studied very carefully, St John Chrysostom’s homilies on Romans as well.
To just shoot from the hip as many Protestants do in interpreting Holy Scriptures makes for ERRANT interpretations.
Q: “Is there really a CUT OFF point when Gentiles no longer are invited to embrace the Lord Jesus Christ?
A: NO!
“The fullnes of the Gentiles,” as taught by our Orthodox hierarchs, beginning with St John Chrysostom’s extant works, CONINUES until Christ’s 2nd coming.
At the same time, there will always be a “remnant” of Jews, like myself, who will come into the Church, and become Christians. (Like me).
+Brother Nathanael Kapner
Russian Orthodox CHRISTIAN
(FORMER Jew)
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I saw that part in a BBC documentary so I persummed knowing the nature of Judiasm and the Talmud and the modern state of Israel that he was displaying typical Jewish tendancies.
Although the BBC is run by a Jew so parhaps thats not suprising that he would be defamed.
Dear Bro Nathanael,
I don’t mean to be argumentative, but didn’t Jesus teach us in Mathew that he would forgive all man’s sins, or that he would ask the Father to forgive all man’s sins except one, the sin of blasphemy of the holy spirit. So if we as man commit, or have committed that sin are we not already rejected to the everlasting fire?
You should prove, using the OLD testament, that the ownership of Israel by the ancient Judeans was CONDITIONAL to certain spiritual behaviors.
If you cite Jesus as argument, they will laugh at it, but many a Jew doesn’t know enough of the Bible. How many times God told them that they will get the land IF this and that, and that He will take it away IF that and this.
These teachings didn’t happen during Moses times, and thus they don’t read this often enough in their Torah reading cycles in the synagogues. These teaching were given by later prophets, and they should be claimed loudly enough for todays Jews to be heard.
Jesus will again help the jews when the time of the gentiles are fulfilled. He didn’t cast them off forever !!!!!
rich, one must also remember that St. John in his Gospel, calls the ancestors of the modern Pharisees, sons of their father the Devil. [ John 8:44]
Moreover, St. John also calls them imposters ‘who say they are Jews, and are not.’ [Rev. 2:8,9] To assume prophetical statements about ‘the time of the Gentiles’ and ‘the fulness of the Jews’ means what the Judeophilic cults and sectarian assemblies means, is to swallow a camel. Who knows clearly who the ‘gentiles’ are, if those who ‘say they are Jews, and are not’ are not even the Jews, who call all non-Jews, ‘gentiles’!
Better to read the verses as they originally were written, ‘Greek or Hellene’ for ‘gentile’ and ‘Judean’ for Jew. We then can see that there was a geographical distinction that was being spoken about, as well as a faith distinction. Now that the Hellenes are the ‘Israel of God’ [Gal. 6:16], what does that make the Judeans.
Certainly NOT ‘Jews’ – or heirs to Jesus… who, btw, was called a Galillean, and not a Judean!!
So, if we can have a people whom even Christ said are NOT what they seem to be, to say that
Dear me –
You are quite wrong. The conditional granting of the land IS in the 5 books of Moses.
If you do a careful study of the book of Deutoronony, (the 5th book of the Pentateuch), especially the closing chapters), where the Blessings & the Curses are announced, and imprecations are made, you wil see that the land was given CONDITIONALLY.
Please know your Scriptures before making false assertions. You evidently are NOT qualified to teach. +BN
Dear Fr John,
Please see my response above to the errant understand of “The Fullness of the Gentiles.”
You of all people should NOT be promoting the Zionist lie that God has some SPECIAL plan for the Jews other than that they find the SAME salvation offered by the Christian Church. +BN
Dear Brother Nathanael,
Thank you for pointing this out for everybody and for reminding me of a need to improve and refresh my memory.
This being said, what you point out only further underlines my main point: that there is ample evidence in the scripture jews read which can be used to help them overcome their false idea of unconditional ownership of the land.
Maybe somebody with a better knowledge of the Bible than me can contribute a complete list of the verses in the Old Testament and especially the Torah which contradict the false zionist claims, because these might be the most efficient antidote.
My general impression in the internet is that these are not preached enough.
@ James1
JESUS CHRIST is:
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May CHRIST our LORD forgive you for your lack of Knowledge & Faith.
Take my advice : think before you open your mouth because you may hurt yourself.
If you need help…just ask, I am sure that all of us present in this FORUM, we can help you to increase your knowledge and to gain some faith.
JUST ASK…don’t give up.
Brother,
I understand what it is that you are trying to convey to many of these people. The Jews must be converted to the one and only true faith in order to have any divine assistance from the true God. They will not be saved as Jews! They will and can only be saved, if converted, as Christians. Most people, who do not understand and have been mislead by the propaganda, interpret it to be a Saving of God’s “Chosen People.”
Even if they recognize the stench of these people as liars and traitors of Christ, they somehow still believe that God will intervene and they will somehow be saved as God’s Chosen people. They just don’t get it. Most don’t even realize that it was precisely the Jews who installed many of their own into the “Evangelical” Churches in order to lead people who claim a “Christian” denomination, into giving their money for the support of Israel under the lie that they are Gods chosen people and the temple must be built to fullfill the coming of the Messiah.(Anti-Chris, really)
These poor souls who are giving their money to support this don’t even know that these Jews are chemeleons and liars. They are not even professors of a Christian Messiah. They hate him. They pretend to be what they are not in order to achieve their ultimate goal. It appears to me that Fr. John maybe what I call a Novus Ordo “clergyman” and supporter of Ratzinger. He is just a poor dupe who may not know any better or may know. He follows the party line of the False Novus Ordo Church which still displays itself as the Roman Catholic Church and is NOT!
I am a Roman Catholic and know what has happened to the church. Christ would NEVER abide within that evil sect! They pulled a good one over on unsuspecting Catholics and usurped a position of the papacy. The Jews infiltrated it many years ago and are leading the high percentage of uneducated Christians to perdition within that Church that praises the Jews as our Brothers! They are not. They are the children of the Father of all Lies.
How could they embrace a people who rejected their own Christ? Makes no sense to me but somehow makes sense to the percentage of Catholics in the world who follow these Anti-Popes. Montini (aka: Paul VI) even so boldly sported the Ephod as well as his “papal” garbe! He laughed at the Catholic world who called him Holy Father! Somewhere somehow the Roman Catholics lost all their senses and forgot all the teachings of the first fathers of the church and especially their teachings and warnings of the Jews! Even Luther had much to say about that accursed race. Ratzinger is the ring leader and is Jewish.
These jews have infiltrated almost every corner of the globe and into ALMOST every government position. The only one I see at present trying to call a spade a spade is Russia. We have to proceed with caution there too as we cannot be completely sure what can happen with that direction. I pray that miracles are being sought through our Lady with Russia. I know I pray for it daily. Fr. John is one of them in my book, if he cannot recognize the truths taught by the real Fathers of the Church. Or he knows the truths taught but disregards them in order to follow the agenda. He has obviously been lead by the false propoganda that has overwhelmed Rome. tisk Tisk Tisk….
I will pray for God’s mercy on them all as well as the rest of us who will have to suffer along with the bad in order for God to cleanse this rotten world of traitors to their Creator.
@James1
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Here is what St. John Chysostom said about them:
“How dare Christians have the slightest intercourse with Jews, those most miserable of all men. They are lustful, rapacious, greedy, perfidious bandits — pests of the universe! Indeed, an entire day would not suffice to tell of all their rapine, their avarice, their deception of the poor, their thievery, and their huckstering. Are they not inveterate murderers, destroyers, men possessed by the devil? Jews are impure and impious, and their synagogue is a house of prostitution, a lair of beasts, a place of shame and ridicule, the domicile of the devil, as is also the soul of the Jew.
As a matter of fact, Jews worship the devil: their rites are criminal and unchaste; their religion a disease; their synagogue an assembly of crooks, a den of thieves, a cavern of devils, an abyss of perdition! Why are Jews degenerate? Because of their hateful assassination of Christ. This supreme crime lies at the root of their degradation and woes. The rejection and dispersion of the Jews was the work of God, not of emperors.
It was done by the wrath of God and because of His absolute abandonment of the Jews. Thus, the Jew will live under the yoke of slavery without end. God hates the Jews, and on Judgment Day He will say to those who sympathize with them., “Depart from Me, for you have had intercourse with My murderers!”
Flee, then, from their assemblies, fly from their houses, and, far from venerating the synagogue, hold it in hatred and aversion. –
Dear PG –
I simply LOVE & ADORE, St John Chrysostom!
This is from his great work, “Against The Judaizers” which I keep by my bedstand for my daily & nightly reading.
“The more we love the Lord, the more we will censure His enemies,” the great St John said. +BN
“You of all people should NOT be promoting the Zionist lie that God has some SPECIAL plan for the Jews other than that they find the SAME salvation offered by the Christian Church. +BN”
Dear Brother N:
I wasn’t. My post got cut off in transmission, which is strange. But I was arguing AGAINST a ‘special plan’, not FOR it.
What I was trying to point out to Rich and some of the others, is that TERMS HAVE CHANGED over the course of the centuries, and thus, OUR UNDERSTANDING. Since the Church is now the “Israel of God” (which the Fathers all concur on) what does that make of modern day [sic] Israel? Nothing, quite clearly.
Sorry for the confusion, but just because someone says it’s a duck; when it doesn’t walk like one, talk like one, or swim like one (modern Dispensational evan-jelly-goos on the Jews) doesn’t make it one.
As a Palestinian Muslim, I find that I have to agree with most of your assessment and proofs regarding the criminal and immoral Zionist entity which is planted over the rubble of destroyed and ethnically cleansed villages and cities of Arab Muslim/Christian Palestine. Although I may differ with you regarding the “Israel of God” or “Gods people” or whoever is doing God’s will on earth. Muslims believe that it is exactly that. Doing God’s Will on earth and being a good person while following God’s revealed law. You may think it is the church and you are within your rights to think so, we may think differently, but we share the sentiment about the Judaic cult that is using and abusing Palestine as well as all those nations they happen to live in. Most Christians look Jews as being closer to Christianity than Muslims could ever be, repeating the unfounded and laughable Judaio-Christian values phrase. A phrase that is both meaningless and has never existed except through being parroted continuously through the Zionist controlled Media.
Muslims believe while Jews REJECT:
1- Christ Jesus is the messiah send by God
2- Mary was a virgin when Jesus was born
3- Jesus cured the sick, and resurrected the dead, and performed many other miracles by the will of God.
4- Jesus will come back to kill the anti-Christ and rule the Justice world until the day of judgment.
The above is of course denied and ridiculed by Jews who accuse Jesus and the blessed Mary of many unflattering.
We may differ on the details of the of who Jesus was, yet a Muslim can not be a Muslim without Loving accepting and respecting Jesus and the blessed virgin mother. Much more than I can say about the Jewish view of Jesus and Mary.
I bet that these facts are brand new to most Christian readers due to the near total black-out on the truth and the constant attack on Islam in favor of Judaism by the Zionist cultist controlled media. Peace!
Dear Hussein –
God spoke by the prophets in the Old Testament. But in these last days, God the Father has spoken by his Eternal Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.
We part ways here because Islam only recognizes the Lord Jesus Christ, the Eternal Son of the Father, only as a prophet.
Then Islam goes even further into blasphemy by exalting Muhammed as GREATER than the Lord Jesus Christ. This is blasphemy of the highest degree.
I urge you to open up the New Testament and read it through and ask God to give you an open heart. Many Muslims have embraced the Lord Jesus Christ as the Eternal Son of God and have left Islam. I hope you join us…
+Brother Nathanael Kapner
Russian Orthodox Christian
Former Jew Who Has Repudiated Judaism
(Now it’s your turn Hussein E to repudiate Islam)
@ Hussein E.
Jesus is God – What does the Bible say about Jesus’ deity?
Does the Bible, which is the earliest and most historically reliable source, actually say Jesus is God? What does it tell us about Jesus and His identity?
Let’s take a brief look at a few of the many passages that clearly and consistently answer that question, straight from the pages of Scripture. We’ll begin by going back an additional 700 years before the life of Christ, to the Old Testament book of Isaiah.
Jesus is God – Prophecies
Divine Messiah predicted in the Old Testament
Isaiah 7:14: “Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.”1
“Immanuel” literally means: “God with us.” See also Matthew 1:23; Jesus was “God with us.”
This Messiah would be born a human son, but have a higher nature
Isaiah 9:6: “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
This was a radical statement coming from a monotheistic Jewish prophet — especially calling a human being “Mighty God”; but one that God fulfilled centuries later in Christ.
A couple hundred years later, but still more than half a millennium before Jesus walked the earth, more was predicted about the Messiah’s divine nature
Daniel 7:13-14: “There before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven . . . He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.”
“Son of Man” was the primary title Jesus used for Himself — and this passage shows that this was a clear and strong claim of deity. And in Mark, the earliest of the four Gospels, He also included the unmistakable phrase, “coming on the clouds of heaven” and applied it to Himself (Mark 14:62). His listeners got the point, refused to believe it, and added it to their reasons to try to kill Him.
Jesus is God – His Earthly Ministry
The baby Jesus worshiped by the Magi
Matthew 2:11: “On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him.”
Along with being led to the site where Jesus was born, these Magi were apparently informed by God about Jesus’ divine identity, and so they responded appropriately by worshiping Him.
Jesus accepted worship from His disciples
Matthew 14:32-33: “And when they climbed into the boat, the wind died down. Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, ‘Truly you are the Son of God.’”
In a Jewish culture, only the one true God can be worshiped; their actions show that they acknowledged Jesus as being divine. And Jesus didn’t correct them or say, “Don’t you realize that I’m just a mortal prophet? Stop worshiping me!” Rather, He accepted their worship, knowing He really was God in human flesh.
Jesus’ claim about Himself
John 8:58-59: “‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered, ‘before Abraham was born, I am!’ At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.”
This is a powerful double claim from Jesus: first, that He pre-existed His human birth and was actually alive and present (as God) before Abraham; second, that His title was “I am” — which was the same title used for Jehovah God in Exodus 3:14. His listeners again got the point, and picked up stones to execute Him!
Another of Jesus’ claims of deity
John 10:30-33: “‘I and the Father are one.’ Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, ‘I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?’ ‘We are not stoning you for any of these,’ replied the Jews, ‘but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.’”
It couldn’t be clearer than it is here: Jesus’ highly educated listeners understood His claim of deity. They only had two possible responses: to humble themselves and bow before Him as the Magi and the disciples had done earlier, or reject His claim and judge Him as a blasphemer. Unfortunately they chose the latter option. But notice that Jesus doesn’t argue with their accusation, because it was accurate. He really was claiming to be God!
Thomas’ response to the resurrected Jesus
John 20:27-29: “Then He said to Thomas, ‘Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.’ Thomas said to him, ‘My Lord and my God!’ Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’”
This disciple realized, because of Jesus’ resurrection, who Jesus really was — and humbly worshiped Him and declared His true identity: “My Lord and my God!” Jesus not only accepts this declaration, but blesses all of the disciples — and all of us today — who come to the same realization and place of humble worship.
Jesus is God – He is Worshipped
Jesus accepted worship prior to His ascension
Matthew 28:16-17: “Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted.”
Note that Jesus was worshiped at His birth, throughout His ministry, after His resurrection, and again here — right before His physical ascension into heaven. His divine nature, as a member of the Godhead (along with the Father and the Holy Spirit), was never questioned by Him or by those who really knew who He was and followed Him.
Paul’s understanding as an apostle and leader of the church
Colossians 1:15-16; 2:9: “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. . . . For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form. . .”
And in Titus 2:13-14 Paul refers to him as “our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us. . .”
Paul’s letters were some of the earliest Christian writings, with most of them actually pre-dating the four Gospels — yet they make some of the strongest statements concerning the first church’s clear understanding of Jesus as the Creator; God in human form.
Jesus will be worshiped by every creature in heaven Revelation 5:13-14: “Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: ‘To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!’ The four living creatures said, ‘Amen,’ and the elders fell down and worshiped.”
The last book in the Bible points prophetically to the time where every living creature will know and acknowledge that Jesus, the “Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29) is also the God who we must praise, honor, and worship — and certainly no mere mortal whose identity needed upgrading by some Roman emperor hundreds of years after He walked this planet!
Jesus is God – Why this matters so much
But Jesus and His followers made the truth very clear, as we’ve seen in the pages of the earliest records, concerning who He was and is — and how imperative it is that we understand and embrace that truth. Look at His sobering words about the vital importance of His identity.
“I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. . . .
“But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. . .You do not know me or my Father. . .I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins.”
“. . .Even as He spoke, many put their faith in him. To [them] Jesus said, ‘If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.’”
hello Bro. Nathan…i love your site i have learned so much of what is happening to the world now….
I have a question for you…surely you don’t censure the conduct of “”ALL” the Jews but only the Zionists ones?
I saw from the Internet websites of Orthodox Jews who are so very much against the current state of Israel and that they are way so much different from the Zionists Jews.
no it won’t survive. because they abandoned their god and now worship satan. God bless mother Russia!
Only the remnant of the Beast – oh’ oh why?
Because Yeshua said ‘those that are first will be last’ i.e. the last nation to recognise Him is beast & who did He come to first fullfilling all prophecy – his family nation.
Star of David-6 points, 6 triangles, 6 points. Get the point.
My wish for them is the grace of Christ & all that baptism in Him brings. Don’t fear he that can only kill but the one that brings life eternal.
Took me almost 40 yrs in wilderness so there is always hope!!
P.S. for my Muslim cousins you’re not last — should read Quran 3.55 & see your Prophet noted Christ Yeshua’s fullfillment of prophecy.
Maranatha, Shalom, servant of Jacob, bondservant Christ Yeshua
Since 8 years many people died through the terrorists or what ever I don’t know.
But I know one thing that humanity there were no Humanity in the hearts of those people who killed people of Ghazzah and so on.
I request to all over the world that please end the terrorist and make your humanity live like a brotherhood.
No need to see any religion just respect religions, but no need to show your religions….