Pasternak – “Jews Must Become Christians”
Pasternak: "Jews Must Become Christians!"
BORIS PASTERNAK OF DOCTOR ZHIVAGO FAME SAYS,
“JEWS MUST BECOME CHRISTIANS!
By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2007-2011
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IN AN OVERLOOKED PASSAGE of Doctor Zhivago, Boris Pasternak wrote:
— “Their national idea has forced the Jews to be a nation and nothing but a nation – and they have been chained to this deadening task all through the centuries when all the rest of the world was being delivered from it by a new force which had come out of their own midst….And they actually saw and heard it and let it go!
How could they let a spirit of such overwhelming power and beauty to leave them, how could they think that after it triumphed and established its reign, they could remain as the empty husk of the miracle they had repudiated?
Come to your senses, stop. Don’t hold onto your identity. Don’t stick together, disperse. Be with all the rest. You were the first and the best Christians in the world. You are now the very thing against which you have been turned by the worst and weakest among you.” — (Doctor Zhivago, Chapter 12)
I read this passage as a young man and I took Boris Pasternak’s advice. I “came to my senses.” I let go of my Anti-Christian Jewish identity, and I became a “Christian!” I have no regrets about it, now, some 26 years later.
The Jews need to become Christians and give up their Anti Christian religion. Yes we can show toleration for the stubborn refusal to accept Christ, but we must hammer home to them the message of Boris Pasternak: “Come to your senses, stop. Don’t hold on to your identity. Accept Christ and become Christians!
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Brother Nathanael @ September 13, 2007
Dear Pam – How can you say that you follow Jesus and not be a Christian?
The Greek word “Christos” is a translation of the Hebrew word “moschiach” which meand “annointed” that is “christ.”
So if you are a follower of Jesus than you automatically are an “annointed one” of Jesus – a “Christian” a “Messianist.”
Please understand what you are denying dear Pam.
+Brother Nathanael
Dear Pam – I am a former Jew and have been baptized into Christ as an Orthodox Christian.
Orthodox Christianity is the Church the apostles established when “they were first called Christians.
I have the name of Christ upon me and I feel sorry for you that you refuse His glorious most honorable Name.
Why don’t you get a Concordance and see how many times the word “Jew” is used in the New Testament, especially when it has to do with censuring the “Jews” for their Deicide, unbelief, and persecutions of Christians.
+Brother Nathanael
Dear Sir,
I have worn out two Exhaustive Strong Concordances of the Hebrew and Greek.
Christ is but a title. Not his name.
I am ashamed of what the church has done in the Christos name , and if you don’t know the history,then begin from the beginning, with the Roman take over of the first church and his teachings.
The church is an out called body of believers, not an institution of dogma or man made rules. The church as we knew it blasphemed that name, killed all “heretics,” persecuted, ripped and tortured and it continues to this day.
The church has it’s own not so widely known belief similar to the Talmud’s of treating all unbelievers in their “gospel” according to them, including that the world was FLAT, they had every right to kill the heretics.
This same mind-set of this “god of wrath and war” carries over to cities, states and nations, continuing the bloodshed in so-called “righteous wars” like in Iraq, Viet Nam, and soon to be Iran if the Rothschild’s have their way with the duped American people, which they have so far!
The Jews who follow in peace, who have no wars with nations, or have no trouble
being tolerant of their different neighbors, including “Christians” who live at peace themselves and not involving themselves in bloodshed, are not the ones to be attacked.
You seem to want to dis all Jews, but would it rather be more peaceful to name those who are calling themselves Jews, but are not and are of the synagoge of satan?
Is it more important to live trying to change the Jew rather than showing forth the love which is for those who receive it?
There is as much hatred in the so-called Christian religion as their is in Moslem extremism and Zionism. This is why all 3 are at odds, each one calling themselves the right and only way.
We have to get away from categorizing the Creator of all, and you will know them by their fruits.
Why are you not as well, saying all Moslems are of the devil? Why, because it just is not true.
Most of these so-called Jews are atheist, at best and war mongering money changers at worst. They are not Jews.
Sure, they have a false identity, a label, they really are just little devils running around in people clothing.
And that would be the extremes of all religions.
The new Testament was just the start, why not count the several thousand years since
Jesus, that war and persecution have been waged in his name?
I do not call myself a Christian as I am protesting what that name has become by the ones who brandish it like a sword in the name of Him who came to give life.
Dear Pam – You are against Holy Scriptures.
The term “Christ” is not simply a title but pertains to the “annointed” of the Lord.
We who are “Christians” are in accordance with the Old and New Testament – especially being in unity with the first believers who called themselves after the name of the Messiah “CHRISTIANS.”
The Holy Orthodox Church has a wonderful record of its saints throughout history of being faithful to Christ and proclaiming to the world for 2000 years TRUE CHRISTIANITY.
Brother Nathanael
If you can trust the Old Testament version of Holy Scripture, it appears you are trusting in a god of war, and not that of Jesus, who always taught a higher principle of whatever the OT was teaching. And he made references in his Sermon on the Mount regarding, and always with, “but behold, I say”.
The New Testament Holy Scripture must be scrutinized and one should only keep those words and teachings which he taught and not what others say he said or taught.
Those in Antioch were first called Christians, not that they called themselves this. Jesus called his followers disciples.
You say you are an Orthodox Christian – does this mean you share your Christian religion which got it’s history from the Roman church? Greek? what?
To deny the Scriptures have been manipulated is to hide like an ostrich and ignore man’s power lust over the issues of religion and God.
Again, I follow Jesus, trust in what he taught, trust in his promise of the Holy Spirit to bring us into all the truth and leave the labels, and questionable Holy Scriptures to war it out amongst themselves along with the blood thirsty god of war in the Old Testament, and the continued warring done in Jesus name to this day.
If we take seriously that promise given by Jesus, that we will be brought into all the truth, then all of the written Scripture except what he taught, must go by the wayside. If we trust that we are indeed Christ’s followers we will not be following the road which leads to destruction but life and life more abundant.
The kingdom of God is within you, he said it, trust it. Trust that the promise of the Holy Spirit is leading you into all the truth and not limited to what is questionably written to be manipulated by corrupt men’s hands having their own agendas.
Peace be upon all who trust in the life given to set men free.
Pam Wiseman
Dear Pam
You are committing & espousing a heresy that was already dealt with by St Ireineos in the 2nd Century in his 5 Volume work, Against Heresies.
St Irineos REFUTES the HERETICS, (like you dear Pam), who maintained that the God of the Old Testament was not the God and Father of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Now dear Pam, St Paul instructs us in the Epistle to St Timothy, “After the 2nd reproof to heretics who refuse to repent, reject them.
If you write back dear Pam in continuation of your stubburn, hard hearted, self willed, heretical notions, you will be banned permanently from commenting here.
I am only doing this so that you will be brought to repentence for your heresies and not ultimately perish in your sins.
Brother Nathanael
“Their national idea has forced the Jews to be a nation and nothing but a nation…”
This puzzles me why Zionists are so obsessed with controlling the geographical Israel (eritz Israel?), like it is a magic kingdom? It seems to be used as a criminal sanctuary, and its political, fund raising, and military advantages much more than any spiritual purpose.
I visited Israel as a Christian because I wanted to see where Jesus Christ lived and walked and talked, but the land had no other draw for me except historical. I felt like Jesus was a family member who had been there, and I wanted to understand the geography and context better.
It was somewhat disappointing to find the Temple Mount controlled by the Muslims with a mosque, entering Jerusalem through the “Dung Gate,” and being treated like second class visitors when planting a tree.
I liked the Israelis and believe (like America) the problem is with the leadership/elite, but I felt like we were being tolerated for the tourist dollars more than welcome, and have no urge to return.
For Pam, I understand giving what Jesus said in the New Testament more weight than anyone else, but she needs to reread what Jesus said about the Father. He completely subordinates Himself to the Father.
I see the Father as unfiltered righteousness that will destroy unrighteousness immediately without debate. Jesus had the ability to interface with sinful men and women give them the opportunity obtain salvation from this destruction to redeem His creations. My view of the Holy Spirit is as the “Spirit of Truth” that people seem to be either attracted toward or repelled.
This may be somewhat simplistic, but hope it helps. I do agree with following the teachings of Jesus Christ, and that there all both false Jews and false Christians (creating the wars); but Jesus explicitly honors the Father in the Scriptures and certainly does not try to usurp the Father’s authority.
Okay, this is a bit fustrating to see this title: “Jews must become Christians”.
Of course not! They and everyone else in this world has a terrifying decision to make, to take the Son that God has offered us in order to give us eternal life, or be destroyed. We all have that right to choose, a terrifying thought indeed! As more and more of mankinds hearts are turning to stone, this decision is upon us, upon us ALL.
Furthermore the term, “Jew” is very misleading. Any Zionism without Christ is considered “false zionism” in I John 4:3:
“And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”
So lets not be so shocked that the state Of “Israel” has been set up, this abomination was prophecied and it will come to pass AS IT IS WRITTEN!
Brother Nathanael, what becme of the 10 lost tribes of Israel?
Dear Peter,
Herod burned the Levitical records of the priesthood before 70 AD. The rest of the geneological records of the 12 Tribes began to be lost during the Babylonian captivity first with the mixing of peoples in Samaria and then with the 2 dispersions of the Jews in 70 AD and after the Bar Kochba revolt in 135 AD.
“British Israelim” has no support whatsoever. The 12 Tribes of Israel specifications are lost forever. The book of Revelations uses the 12 tribes in a figurative sense. +BN
The Torah and Talmud are satanic verses.
The jews create evil, dangerous and destructive ideas. Marxism, Zionism, Judaism, Freudian Psychology, the atomic and hydrogen bombs, Hollywood perverted filth, TV, etc.
No wonder Jesus, Mohammad and Martin Luther condemned the Jews for being Satan’s children.
Anyone Jew doesn’t understand the gift of being a Jew and appreciating our heritage should be ashamed of themselves.
Somewhere something went wrong with you. We can only hope and pray for you that you see the light rather than go through life unfulfilled.
Dear joy g,
The heritage of Jews is to embrace the promised Messiah of Israel, Yeshua Ha Moshciach.
Yeshua Ha Moschiach fulfilled all the prophecies of the coming Messiah, especially the prophecy of Genesis 3:15 that the seed of the woman, the Messiah, would conquer death. +BN
I wish you started to TEAR DOWN this Idiotic SCARE TACTIC that the Zionists use:
The whole SEMITE Myth/”ANTISEMITIC” this Antisemitic that you know better than anyone!
How many times have the Zionists called you — totally erroneously– “Anti Semitic” – and I’m sure you know how wrong and misleading and evil it is of them to call ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES Anti Semitic.
For lo and behold: ONLY ZIONISTS / “JEWS” are the REAL Anti Semites, waging WAR against the Real Semites: The Palestinians (alongside with the other Arabic Peoples as well) PULL ALL THE PLUGS!, PLEASE!
Besides, being Jewish is a Choice of ideology to match one’s Psychology -either by default, or by proxy but always by CHOICE, NOT by BIOLOGY!
IF one’s Psychology-ideology made one’s physical “race” (there’s only four Races on Planet Earth!) WHAT “race” would –for instance– a R. Catholic person be?? These are Things /Issues that need to be ASKED now and made to BIG HEADLINE TOPICS, don’t you agree?
We need to tear down all the lies, behind which the crooks think they still can hide!… They can’t!
Too many know the TRUTH already, but even more still need to learn all about it!
I do hope Pam was welcomed to continue in all discussions, for Truth can withstand scrutiny, indeed it is necessary so that they may here His voice.
Even if a considered rebuttal is necessary to bring all the facts into light by BN.
Now, to an elementary yet critical question/statement I have never had fully clarified to my satisfaction over the years:
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Why did/do the Jews deny the Christ? If the NT reveals specific instances where He fulfilled the prophecies, what do their holy teachings reveal otherwise?
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Rhetorically, I also always wonder what they have to lose by believing, what makes them cling a tradition or history when so many others have found hope and life?
Many cultures have maintained their traditions and identity after converting, even in MAN’S missteps have made deadly mistakes along the way. But what is it about the rituals that is so precious?
I would always choose a living G-d of over one of the dusty past.
Should any Jews read this and doubt, I simply ask that they invite Jesus Christ into their hearts, and then watch and listen. What do you have to lose if I am wrong?
If you knew me, you would know that I am the last person to try to convert others, especially coming from my background.
But when He appears the rest is so obviously false and lacking, no matter how much you had invested in other ways (and even when uninvited!) it is a peace and love that is unimaginable. And I have such a heart for the Jewish friends and partners I’ve had over the years… I want them to have it, too. They deserve nothing less.
If not this Messiah, which one would do?
Thank you for the chance to share these lengthy thoughts! My heart is lightened.
I agree with Pasternak and brother Nathanael; Jews must become Christians and John Hagee must repent!
Jesus is the only way to salvation! The Zionists and freemasons are the biggest curse of the earth’s history and the spirits behind them. The Jews need our prayers by faith and authority for repentance.
Many of these so-called Christians actually support war and are blood thirsty for war and killing, when the Christ clearly tells us “He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword,” and to the soldiers he said: “Do harm to no man”.
So what I am saying is that these so-called Christians are no better than Jews. In practice they are Jews at heart, in that they love themselves. We must make this distinction between true Christians and false ones.
The true Christian would love his enemies, as the Saviour teaches us, he would not hate his enemies as most so-called Christians do.
I have learned a great deal about Judaism and its evilness from this website and I am grateful for that. However I must point out that many people who call themselves Christians are not Christian at all.
Going to church on Sundays and listening to preachers is not Christianity. Christianity is to follow Christ’s example by making sacrifices for others and by denying ourselves and our desires for others on a daily basis.
Christianity consists of selfless actions in the world. It does not consist of words and empty talk. Saying I am a Christian does not make me a Christian if I do not practice Christianity through selfless works in the world on a daily basis.
Many Christians think that Jews are all Christians or they are friends of Christianity.
This website opens my eyes to know the truth.
Now almost all the pentecostal churches are preaching Old Testament scriptures, thus bringing the Christians to Old Testament bondage.
Thank You very much for this ministry. This is the need of the hour (last days).
All this talk about Hebrew, is not the oldest Hebrew Manuscript we have a translation of is the Greek Septuagint?
Why do we bounce to what is considered older and more reliable, simply because it is called a ‘Hebrew’ text, rather than going by what was chronologically written?
The Body of Christ contains those and only those who have come to God the Father through personal faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. See I Cor. 12:3.
Thanks, for your work and information. Let us pray for all Jewish people among us. May the Lord bless you.
Pastor/brother in Christ, Howard L. Watson, Elkview. WV
Very bold and informative on issues of Zionism and Zionist.
Many fundamentalist Christians hold a pro-Israel/Zionist view of Jew’s return to the Holy Land (present day Israel) as land/territory given to Davidic Israel. Yet, they ignore the sins and unbelief of many/most Jews against Jesus Christ as their Messiah.
Many Jews really acted in the special position of “Jehovah’s chosen” in bringing to the world our Lord Jesus the Christ. Those people included Mary, the earthly family of Jesus of Nazareth, all His disciples and thousands of others in that day and continuing time.
It’s wonderful for Jews to come to Jesus as their Messiah. We joint members of the Body of Christ are one. Praise the Lord.
Pastor Howard L. Watson
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You are absolutely correct Bro. Nathanael.
I am just like you born into the Hebrew tribe and became a Christian at age 12, almost 30 years ago and I never once questioned that I know I absolutely made the correct choice.
The Bible says we are all one in Christ Jesus and there are no more Jews!
BN,
Firstly I would like to say that I can see some of Pam’s points and that it seems a bit harsh to ban her on the basis of her posts.
I say that because debate can be, and often times is quite informative. I say this because over the course of history much blood has been shed in the name of Christ. That being said it probably not all that odd that one might not want to affiliate with an organized religion but rather follow the teachingsof Jesus in the NT on their own.
At any rate I personally don’t feel that all Jews are evil and that all Jews interpretation of Judaism itself is evil. However I hate Zionism and Rabbis that hate all non-Jews.
What is your opinion of Messianic Jews? (Jews that strictly adhere to the 10 commandments/ Mossiac Law and believe in Jesus as Messiah).
Also why is it that hard line Rabbis are so against the notion of “love your neighbor as you would love yourself”?
There really seems to be a huge superiority complex among and propagated by these hard-line Zionist Rabbis. Also what are your thoughts about past and present anti-Zionist Rabbis?
Thanks and peace to you.
Also what are your feelings regarding Beta Israel, the Nag Hammadi Library, other gnostic Christian texts and the beliefs (as far as we know) of the Cathars?
Again, thanks and peace to you.
BN,
I am currently trying to find my own place in Christianity. That is why I was trying to correct my last msg.
Just asking for advice…
The reason I ask is because of the possible lost history of these people.
Peace to you, brother Nathanael… I am for any religion of peace as that honors GOD!
Dear Michael,
Please email me, and I will help.
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+bn