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PUTIN’S MOVE INTO THE MIDDLE EAST
By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2008-2009

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PUTIN IS A GRAND MASTER of the Japanese discipline known as Judo. A distinctive mark of a Judo expert is “inscrutability.” This is a trait that Vladimir Putin is known for.

Performing before Japanese Judo masters in Tokyo, Putin displayed a technique used by smaller men facing larger opponents — an inner leg throw that dumps the opponent backward. The key to an effective inner leg throw is “inscrutability” – the opponent must not be aware that it is coming.

Thus to understand Vladimir Putin one must be able to penetrate into the manner of an “inscrutable” warrior. For example, on August 8 2008, Putin’s political party, United Russia, opened a branch in Israel in an exchange with Israel’s ruling Kadima party, which opened a branch in Moscow.

To many, Putin’s decision is interpreted as a concession to Zionist interests. But those who penetrate deeper into the motives of a Judo master might look for a “leg throw” regarding this move.

More than 1,000,000 Russian Jews reside in Israel today. At least 100,000 of them are Russian Orthodox Christians who enjoy the use of many church properties in Israel owned by the Moscow Patriarchate. (Here & Here & Here.) Thus, it should be obvious to all, that Putin seeks to throw back his Zionist opponent by possessing a greater influence in their own territory.

PUTIN STIRS THE WATERS

A POWERFUL NAVAL CONTINGENT led by the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov left Murmansk on the Barents Sea on August 18 2008 to dock at the Syrian port of Tartus on August 23 2008. The contingent included the Russian Navy’s biggest missile cruiser Moskva and at least four nuclear missile submarines.

At the Black Sea resort of Sochi, Syrian President Bashar Assad told reporters on August 21 2008 that the Tartus port will be converted into a permanent Middle East base for Russia’s nuclear-armed warships. He also said that he is considering a Russian request to deploy missiles in his country in view of Russian-Western tensions over the Georgian conflict which he said had polarized East and West anew.

Senior US officials severely criticized Syria after Assad voiced his country’s support of Russia in its military conflict with Georgia, saying that Syria should keep out of issues that don’t pertain to them.

But many Israelis expressed frustration with what they said amounted to the US abandoning Israel’s allies in Georgia owing to its impotence to face down Russia. And now, Putin is attempting to get the Zionist West to rethink the geopolitical dynamics surrounding the Middle East conflict between Israel and its neighbors, or more accurately, between Israel and the entire world.

And with Putin establishing a presence in what the US likes to consider its own backyard in the Middle East, the Israelis are themselves rethinking with whom they need to make friends with: A Russian bear? Or a US lame duck?

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43 Comments

  1. Michael Cecil August 25, 2008 @ 1:34 am

    And, of course, Russia is an iteration of the “king of the North” in the fractal Prophecies of Daniel 11:40-45.

    Stay tuned.

    Michael Cecil

  2. admin August 25, 2008 @ 1:39 am

    Dear Michael Cecil –

    What do you mean “of course?” Does that prove your false interpretation of the Bible? This is an evidenced based Christian Web Site and “of course” assertions hold no water here.

    Your biblical knowledge is based on a tenuous evangelical Christian interpretation of the Holy Prophets. This Protestant interpretation imposes a presupposed view into Holy Writ.

    I suggest that you back up your assertions with Biblical proof texts as well as political-historical events.

    But you cannot do it for your assertions are flimsy at best and can “hold no water.” +BN

  3. Dave August 25, 2008 @ 4:18 am

    All of these religious prognostications and “confirmations” regarding the Russians invading Israel are somewhat silly.
    Claims of foreknowledge by those that study the bible is tantamount to someone who knows all of the details in a Harry Potter novel,RELIGION IS STILL JUST A FAIRY TALE!

    Seriously,all of the Christian beliefs are based on a claim that a woman(Mary) was a virgin and that was most definitely the story given to Joseph her husband.
    In my experience with humanity,one should treat such claims with suspicion and doubt.
    The entire foundation for Christianity is very tenuous at best and has been spun and embellished for millennia.

  4. Jim Eagle Feather August 25, 2008 @ 5:45 am

    Some Europeans call the EU a Communist ploy to take over Europe with Russia, implying that the old Siloviki who control Russia – such as Putin – are actually still Soviet. Well they actually are mainly old KGB. And as anyone knows who studied the Soviet Union, it was not a communist state it was always a KGB state, and it STILL IS for all practical purposes.

    Anyway the Lisbon Treaty was something Russia was panting for – to be passed – but the Irish stopped that. Why was Russia wanting the Lisbon Treaty? Because it was hoping to MERGE with the European Union up the road. It was still hoping this even without the Lisbon Treaty.

    On June 25th Medvedev recently said. “In terms of priorities for the relationship between Russia and the European Union — this is a relationship between the Russian Federation, a major European state which defines itself and conducts itself as part of Europe, and the European Union.”

    For this to happen France and Germany were pushing this. Russia was supposed to be cleaning up its act – and part of that included showing that Russia would observe European standards of observing international laws and treaties. Note: it did not include showing that Russia could act like BushCo…

    Now guess who was not too happy about Old Europe trying to intergrate Russia into the EU? The who was spelled U.S.A. Guess who was happy when Russia entered Georgia to capture Moose and Squirrel? Guess who was happy when Russia began breaking its cease fire the day after it had agreed to it?

    The problem with the few pro-rusky sites on the web is that almost no one has paid serious attention to what the HISTORY or real stakes were for Russia in Georgia. Nor did they question why early on Russia said it would remove the Georgian president and the day after France handed it the cease fire, Russia forgot all about him and began to attack lesser and more meaningless targets (like Humvees and a bridge) instead Georgia’s capital.

    The USA won this one.

    As for the Russian Navy – you need to study its make-up. It is a glorified coastal defense of a nation whose stock market is about 200 billion dollars in value (that is before Westerners began pulling out their assets over the Georgia deal driving the Russian stocks down by 8%).

  5. Mike Rowe August 25, 2008 @ 5:49 am

    Writings of Polycarp, Clement, and Ignacius are still with us today. Two of them personally trained under St. John the devine. These “epistles” demonstrate that nothing changed from the writings of Paul a hundred years before, or today. All the rantings about Christianity being a hoax are not grounded in fact, or documents.

  6. Dr. Albert D Pastore August 25, 2008 @ 6:02 am

    Putin also HAND PICKED the chief rabbi of Russia, much to the dismay of the anti Putin Zionists and jewish oligarchs who had been supporting opposing parties.

    Putin neutralized Zionist subversion with one move because this rabbi is Putin’s biggest fan!

  7. Nabil August 25, 2008 @ 6:28 am

    @ Dave.

    1/Religion is necessary for billions of people, and it have been like this for thousands of years.right?

    2/religion is a key factor in those peoples mind regarding the developpement of antagonisms , wars, and history, and still is in reality now more than ever (israel is defining itself as a “jewish state” , iran an “islamic republic” ,and they both act according to their religion’s credo.

    Therefore :

    One , even if atheistic , or a “realist” should analyse the basis,principles, ethics of a religion , just for the sake f understanding the mindset of the people beleiving in those religions.

    for me, being raised in a muslim country, i have great respect for the principles and etchics of islam (not those you hear on Fox news ), and a great respect for christianity
    for the principles and ethics it has , and a great disgust for talmudic judaism for the low life ethics it proposes.

    Know who your real enemy is.

  8. Ed August 25, 2008 @ 9:00 am

    Dave wrote: “The entire foundation for Christianity is very tenuous at best and has been spun and embellished”

    This can be said of the legends, myths and underpinnings of every religion, culture, civilization–and even of the supposedly “empirical” underpinnings of every political ideology and philosophical doctrine.

    The question is not whether every component of any belief-system is factually true (for that is unknowable). The question is whether its motives, intent, eschatology and world view are grounded in manifest good will, (as is Christianity) or manifest ill will (as are so many other belief systems) as revealed over time.

    Everyone suffers from delusions to one degree or another. What’s important is what is in one’s heart. What is important about Christianity is that it has a good heart, unlike nearly all other belief systems, ideologies and philosophical doctrines, which are based primarily on individual ambition, selfishness, greed and ego.

  9. Ken August 25, 2008 @ 9:08 am

    I am absolutely impressed. The second response above by the Admin.

    Finally, I have found a real Christian website!

    Hallelujah

  10. Greg August 25, 2008 @ 9:15 am

    Hi Brother Nathanael:

    What do you think about the difference in the gospels as to how we work out our salvation, the protestant way which says what a sinner does towards God and other people makes no difference verses the Catholic way which says only doing the will of God will get a soul into heaven?

  11. admin August 25, 2008 @ 9:17 am

    Dear Dave –

    You wrote, “The entire foundation for Christianity is very tenuous at best and has been spun and embellished for millennia.”

    Christianity, that is, the belief that Jesus Christ is the promised Messiah foretold by the Holy Prophets in the Old Testament up through and including St John the Bapist who affirmed the Eternal Divinity of Jesus Christ, is based on both man’s need of salvation from the curse of death and predictions of Who and what the Messiah would do beginning in Genesis 3:15.

    Genesis 3:15 states that the seed of the woman would crush the seed of the serpent who brought in the curse of death. The coming Messiah would conquer death and Jesus Christ fulfilled this mission on the Cross by dying and rising again.

    Jesus Christ said in St John’s Gospel Chapter 3 that “light is come into the world but men loved darkness rather than come to the light lest their deeds be reproved.”

    I urge you dear Dave to repent of your mass of sins and come to the light of Christ Who offers forgiveness now before its too late and you stand before the Judge condemned at the dread judgement seat of Christ.

    +Brother Nathanael Kapner
    Orthodox Christian of the Russian Orthodox Church

  12. Ken August 25, 2008 @ 9:18 am

    To Jim Scavengar Feathers,

    Your dribble is so obviously Neoconish.

    The simple fact is, the US and Israel had a presence adjacent to Russian territory with intent of absorbing Russian states. And then they attacked the Russian people.

    ANY country would have done the same as Russia as wee too were prepared to do during the Cuban Missle Crises.

    Sometimes I wonder why Christians even allow such satanistic remarks as yours on this website. If I owned it, I would have marked you as spam and tossed your message.

    You will do anything to prop up your hero Shrub and Penus.

    Ken

  13. Ken August 25, 2008 @ 9:21 am

    Greg,

    The Bible clearly states that works are important (“faith without works is dead”). The protestant interpretation is clearly in error.

    Ken

  14. james August 25, 2008 @ 9:24 am

    @Jim Eagle Feather

    If you studied history and articles published on this website you would realise that communism is Jewish as well as its mass murderers including those who killed the Czar and his family.

    The EU is anti-Russian you just have to read there statement they issued after Beslan.

    If there is a secret alliance with Russia and the EU then why does it not extradite gangster oligarchs Berezovsky and Guisinky?

    Russia has said nothing on the Lisbon treaty, takes no view.

    EU is Russia’s largest trading partner as well as many other countries the quote you’re referring to probably is a reference to this.

    It was Georgia that broke the ceasefire not Russia.

    A week before Russia tried to pass a resolution on a ceasefire agreement on the two regions but was blocked by the US and Georgia.

    Russia never said it would remove the president it was the US ambassador Khalizad at the UN that said Russia wanted to remove the president. Russia’s ambassador refuted this claim saying that regime change is an American policy.

    Russia only attacked targets and areas that were a staging ground and bringing in reinforcements on the assault on Ossetia

  15. Ken August 25, 2008 @ 9:25 am

    Ed,

    Just read it.

    Awesome response.

    Ken

  16. Beau August 25, 2008 @ 9:25 am

    One thing is clear to me: The “Russian” (in reality “Khazarian”) invasion of Palestine isn’t about to happen; it’s about to come to an end. And we Christians know what that means.

  17. Jim Lisenby August 25, 2008 @ 9:29 am

    Brother Nathanael,

    I have left comments on this two times, but neither is showing here. Perhaps I am doing something wrong in my submission, or are you deleting commentary from some of us?

    Kudos to Michael Cecil. As a long time Bible student and analyst, I find it entirely plausible that Russia and her allies could be the kingdom of the North. The kingdom of the South is in progress now under the auspices of Hugo Chavez, et al, and it appears that it is likely that America is the final head of the beast of Revelation 13:1.

    Hope this one makes it on the blog.

    Jim Lisenby
    ourfathersword.org

  18. admin August 25, 2008 @ 9:41 am

    COMMENTS ON THIS SITE:

    As the moderator of Real Jew News’ comments section I must deal with a multitude of spams that come in every hour of the day.

    This site has been targeted by hackers and spammers who desire that the evidenced based content not be published as it censures the conduct of Zionist Jews who continue their crucifixtion of Jesus Christ and His Holy body, the Church that He established upon earth and heaven.

    Sometimes comments get deleted that should not be deleted. If you feel that a comment posted should have been published then as Jim above post it again and hopefully it will pass muster. +BN

  19. Ken August 25, 2008 @ 9:44 am

    Pastore,

    It is more than what you indicated in your post. Putin is extremely intelligent. He is not just protecting his own country in selecting that Rabbi. He is in fact creating a movement to redirect the jewish faith. To move it into a new direction.

    Eventually the jews in Russia will speak out against the neocon jews (lower case intentional) in Israel. Once there is conflict within that belief system, people will chose sides. And there will be division… any degree of which will undermine the neocon politics of Israel.

    As an American, I have far more respect for Putin than I do my own… well, without saying something that would get me throw in a gulag, lets just say…

    God bless Putin and the Russian people. Not because they are perfect, but because they represent the lesser of evils. And that they represent the greatest possibility of hope in standing against the corrupt corporate new world order that cares for nothing but mammon.

    Here is an example of the satanic decay in my own country (USA). Fifty years ago neighbors took care of their elderly. Our kids were suppose to go ask, as I was, to see if they could help. And we were explicitely taught to accept no money but to do it out of our hearts and goodwill toward the elderly.

    Ask yourself what we have today? We have anonymity to the degree that a ‘neighbors’ (if they can be called that) says “oh, she can hire a home help service”.

    Today we charge old people for the help they need. We prey upon them.

    This is a hundred precent turn in the precepts that defined this country in the past.

    This is only one example where Russia is better than the US.

    Actions speak louder than words and you will know them by their fruits. And how we treat others is the guiding light.

    God bless Putin and Russia!

    Ken

  20. Ken August 25, 2008 @ 9:54 am

    Hey, Putin!

    You need to start a new Isreal ‘country’ in Russia!

    The current country of Israel was a land grab and causing incredible hardship in the middle east. So how about a new chunk of Russia given freely by the owner and serving a dual purpose… Call it New Isreal or Real Isreal?

    Ken

    Ken

  21. Greg August 25, 2008 @ 9:57 am

    Hey Ken:

    Did you happen to see the articles online that say in Nebraska the lawmakers passed a law that allows parents to disown their kids at any hospital up until the age of 19 now? Instead of just covering newborn babies with the law, they cover human beings until they are age 19. So any parent that says the no longer can control their kids, can leave their kids off at any hospital and walk away. They will not be prosecuted for abandoning their grown teenage kids. This is just another sign that we are at the very end of the evil last days mentioned by the ancient prophets and Jesus Christ.

  22. Greg August 25, 2008 @ 10:00 am

    Here is a link to the story:

    http://news.aol.com/article/law-lets-nebraska-parents-leave-teens/145243

    This is the end of the traditional family, when homosexuality is actively promoted by the government and business sector, and now we have no responsibility parenting coming into the picture.

  23. Jim Lisenby August 25, 2008 @ 10:36 am

    Ken,

    I don’t know if I want God to bless Putin and Russia or not, but it is apparent that Russia is being set up here to make a major mistake. In other words, they are being goaded into war by some very powerful provocateurs. One can only hope that Putin and his staff will consider their moves carefully before acting.

    It is clear to me that America and Israel are hellbent to stir up the area and destabilize it, with some aid from the U.K., France and Germany. The “stans” and the Caspian Sea Basin has been considered since WWII by many think tanks and institutions to eventually become the center of world wealth and power. That is why the world powers are so intensely involved with it.

    I totally agree with you that our elderly are being preyed upon (myself included), but in truth our whole society is being preyed upon in one way or another. Example: Look at your phone bill and try to figure it all out. What are all those little add-on charges? Totally unrighteous ripoffs!!!

    Jim Lisenby
    ourfathersword.org

  24. Ken August 25, 2008 @ 10:54 am

    Greg,

    I had not heard that. I have seen some of the things here. A lady I knew actually turned her kids into the authorities because she could not handle them anymore. They went to a juvenile detention facility. A prison for kids.

    I know these kids are not all love and joy today. But the fact that we have eroded to this state says it all. The lady of course had no belief system.

    Godless systems whether nations or families soon fall apart. The US is a prime example of that. The more Godless we become, the more our country has failed. More specifically, our intentional abuse of Christianity to pursuade and control, to furthur that greed and corruption, assures the US will be destroyed.

    I pray for my own country and president as I do for Putin and Russia. The difference is that in regards for my own president, I pray that he will see the light much like Putin does. That my own arrogant prideful president (and the cabal we call a government) will change their ways. And if not, that God will teach us a terrible lesson. That I think is where Medvedev, Putin and Russia come into the picture.

    With the US Navy ships and cargo planes delivering ‘aid’ to Georgia, I think we are at the brink of WWIII. You can bet those US ships and planes were not carrying humanitarian aid but military weaponry.

    If it was aid, we have naval ships for cargo only with minimal armament. But we sent a missle destroy. The American people need to see that lie for what it is. They are about to be forced into a conflict by their own president.

    How much room is there on a missle destroyer for cargo? The truth is, cargo ships accompany missle destroyers because missle destroyers do not have any cargo space! It is such a blatant lie.

    Bush et al and the corruption that controls this country got their ass kicked in Georgia and now like spoiled satanic rich kids they are going to scream and throw a tantarum. Unruly. What that means is that they are going to push the button. And we will have our WWIII. And it will escalate to nuclear because the black decadent decay of greed in the hearts of Bush, Cheney, Rice, and the corporate elite that seek to rule the world.

    Just as satan does.

    Satan will attempt to destroy the earth if he cannot get what he wants. And he is doing it through the hearts of these blackened souls we call a government.

    That is why I pray for them. I pray for their souls.

    Ken

  25. Dave August 25, 2008 @ 11:07 am

    Let me clarify,I am not just criticizing the claims of Christianity,what I meant was that ALL religions are baseless and supported only by claims of some wise man or worse yet,embellished by historians over the millennia(adding flair to historical accounts was considered normal and was to be expected in that era).

    Yes there are very good people and good laws and standards that emanate from the church,but that does not make the outrageous claims of the bible true.

    There are no good deeds that have been accomplished by a Christian that has not/could not be accomplished by an atheist.

    I just have a problem with having “the church” attempting to bestow guilt upon me for disbelieving these ancient claims made by mortals with an agenda.

  26. admin August 25, 2008 @ 11:19 am

    Dear Dave –

    All men are made in the image of God and therefore all of mens’ good deeds refer back to their Creator, the Lord Jesus Christ.

    The Orthodox Christian Church offers to all men regardless of their race or nationality, “forgiveness of sins.”

    I urge you once again NOT to skirt the big issue of your salvation: You as all men are under the curse of death. “As it is appointed unto men once to die and after this the judgement,” as St Paul writes, you have an oppurtunity to accept the forgiveness Christ offers to you NOW.

    It will be too late when you stand before Him at His dread judgemnent seat. +Brother Nathanael

  27. Greg August 25, 2008 @ 11:19 am

    But Dave, don’t you think that it is because people inside a church wanted to live their own way that is the cause of the evils you attribute to people of faith? A centralized Christian religion that has the ten commandments as the universal guide for living produces the ideal society, but a society where there is no universal respect for the dignity of all people is what non-religions bring to humanity. Non-religions typically bring to us the idea that each person can decided for himself/herself what is morally acceptable, which is nothing more than evil being disguised as being good. The slave owners believed in moral relativism, as well as the central banking elite believe in moral relativism today.

  28. Ken August 25, 2008 @ 11:31 am

    Dave,

    Unfortunately you belong to a ‘group’ whether you want to admit it or not. They are called atheist.

    I had a family member come live with me while going to college. He was an atheist. And his life style demonstrated it. I posed a question to him. I said, “that person walking down the street, is it ok to profit from that person in any way you can?” His answer was yes, if you are able too.
    Survival of the fittest.

    Rape is an act of the survival of the fittest. As is stealing. As is abusing others for personal gain.

    I do not know you Doug, but the odds are, given my experience, that atheists live lives contrary to true principles that define a security and longevity in soceity. The fact that we are now losing those things in this country is a testament to this precept. Society demands that we have laws that define human behavior. Without then, any society will erode to decadance. And the liberal and largely atheist society seeks to “let me do what I want” and do away with the rules. It is a plan for social failure.

    Yes, Christianity itself has factions that are actually doing the work of satan. And I think some atheists are right to speak out against such christianity. These types of ‘christians’ use the name of Christ only to garner the publics support for private and political gain. And unfortunatley, many Christians are gullible enough to believe these false prophets. This is where America is at right now. But the true Christians are for love and peace. Not war.

    Not war.

    I am not blaming you for anything. If I felt you were a good person and an atheist, I would still embrace you as a friend. But only because I felt the goodness in you would eventually lead you to a belief in a creator – and a system of goodness that demands a set of rules that go against our primitive natures. Most in your camp are taught to satisfy their wants. Whether it be sex, money, power, etc. But in Christianity we are made aware of our wants and taught to contain them for the ill that they bring upon others. If such a statement is offensive to you, please consider that that is something that is in your heart, not mine. My intent is only to do good to you.

    Ken

  29. Ken August 25, 2008 @ 11:48 am

    Dave,

    You said “what I meant was that ALL religions are baseless”.

    Christianity is not baseless. ALL societies require rules and regulations to contain our behavior.

    Rape is an act that actually promotes the survival of a species. In a very primitive society, imagine guys just grabbing women and having their way with them. Lots of children would be the result. Survival of the fittest.

    But the problem is, in such a society of violence, we do not have a stable environment for thought. Thought which begets technology. Which begets a society that will eventually lead to the stars.

    A system of rules is absolutely required for a society to advance to a greater state. And there is no greater state that demonstrates that then the Christian nation the US used to be.

    Religion is the glue that unites a people and provides for their survival (aka, acting as one society or nation). Take Iraq for instance. A po dunk nation standing up agsinst the greatest military power on earth. How can that be? Without a very strong religion, they would have failed under the onslaught long ago.

    And so there are many kinds of religions… but only one that resulted in the most powerful and successful on earth. And this gives testement to such a Christian belief system. It is simply a matter of observation… the same that gives the base to all science. In this case social science. It is not arbitrary. Unfortunately, this nation of ours is living off the Christian past and soon running to a dead end with the new deal and world domination.

    Ken

  30. Ken August 25, 2008 @ 11:51 am

    Like rape, our government and society is back to forcing itself upon others.

    War.

    Ken

  31. Greg August 25, 2008 @ 12:28 pm

    In addition Ken, a society of rules that are not based upon class, race, gender, etc… is the ideal. The elite seem to always miss making economic class as one of the targets of their diversity programs, as they DO NOT want to lose their status at the head of the society. Instead they do evil from generation to generation, always finding someone in the lower classes to take the punishment and blame for what was done by the elite in the past generations. Christ knew this was true which is what lead Him to make a specific warning to those who controlled the most worldly wealth and political power. He basically warned them that they would almost be certain not to inherit eternal life, as it is close to impossible for these folks to love every human being in their actions. Those in the higher class economically and politically are often the most proud, arrogant slobs in the human race. These folks haven’t worked a real job for even a single day in their lives, but they get their wealth off of the work of others.

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  35. Loren August 25, 2008 @ 2:41 pm

    @ Michael Cecil :

    In referring to “Russia is an iteration of the “king of the North””, I grew up with Hal Lindsay’s book “The Late Great Planet Earth”, wherein that scenario involving USSR/Russia was described and detailed through the use of Scripture and current events of that time (of about 30-40 years ago). He wasn’t the only one at that time expounding upon this scenario, but was one of the most well known.

    The Bible is the Bible – the inerrant Word of God. However, our interpretations and applications of the Bible can often be in error, inspite of our best efforts, because of “sin” and its accumulative effects over time upon us all since Adam and Eve. That is, we see “dimly”, even with our best vision, because of the “devolution” (the proper understanding of “evolution”) that has occurred over the millennia.

    What could be a grand scenario or belief today could be proven false tomorrow. And that which is believed false today could be proven true next year. (And not just concerning Biblical beliefs and theories, but in areas of science, medicine, etc.) The best that we can obtain in forecasting and determining the future and all its details, or even in looking back and trying to figure out the remote past, in our fallen state, is a “working model”, subject to change. (The “Theory of Evolution” is just that – a “theory”, or a “working model” – and NOT an absolute!)

    Am I saying that the entire Bible is a “working model, subject to change”? Absolutely NOT! Again, the Bible is the inerrant Word of God! There are certain things in God’s Word that are ABSOLUTE, and absolutely foundational to ALL else, already known to our understanding. And then there are those things that have yet to be discovered, determined, fulfilled, and made absolute from our earthly perspective and experience, such as in regards to Biblical prophesy.

    Could Russia be or become the “king of the North”? Perhaps. Maybe not today, maybe not next year, maybe later, or perhaps if Putin should be “replaced” with someone in bed with the NWO/neocons. Could this “king” be some other “nation” or “force”? The United States, or the EU, perhaps? I’ve read such theories presented credibly, and have taken them into consideration, but not as absolutes.

    To say “of course” or “absolutely” in regards to such forecastings puts oneself on thin ice and possible discreditation. Over the years, I’ve been exposed to many such forecasts and projections – all soundly based upon the Bible and Biblical prophesy, according to those claiming such – that have proven WRONG! So now, I no longer listen to those “Godly” teachers and preachers, not because they “got it wrong” once or twice, but on a consistent basis … and yet with no acknowledgements unto the truth nor apologies unto the errors. Does this mean that these men and women of God are no longer “Godly”? No. It just means that they got it wrong, and wrong on a consistent basis, so I no longer listen to them about much of anything. Does this also mean that I no longer study my Bible, pray, listen to the Spirit of God, and have given up on my Salvation through Christ Jesus? Absolutely NOT! It has only anchored my faith all the more!

    If your stock brocker got it wrong one time, or two, well, ok. But if he/she got it wrong on a consistent basis, and made no acknowledgements nor apologies nor compensations, you’d pull your monies out as soon as possible and go somewhere else that’s getting it right on a consistent basis. How much more important is one’s eternal life, as compared to those crumbling stocks and worth-less-than-nothing Federal Reserve Notes?

    From the evidences presented by Br. Nathaneal and others posting on this site, it would seem to me that Prime Minister Putin and President Medvedev are indeed believing and practicing Russian Orthodox Christians who are genuinely concerned about their nation and the peoples therein, and govern accordingly, as well as their proper role and Russia’s in helping shape world events.

    In this context, we should indeed be praying for Russia and its leaders and peoples, that they follow Christ as their leader and example, and refuse to fall into the traps set for them by the NWO/neocon Zionist/satanists, as our own US government and nation-as-a-whole have.

    “Ye shall know them by their fruits.”

    If the fruit of Russia proves good, then Russia will likewise be proven good, and of being of the True Vine.

    Unfortunately, the fruit of the United States has proven putrid inside its glossy attractive surface, and so the United States will be plucked up and cast into the fire as worthless, along with the Federal Reserve System and the Internal Revenue Service – the twin towers of national and extended-international NWO/Zionist/Talmudian financial whoredom and exploitation.

  36. Benjamin Shlomo August 25, 2008 @ 3:19 pm

    I’ve been a fan of Henry Makow’s website. But today he posted that he is not on the Putin “bandwagon.” Even though he recognizes that Putin is acting (as opposed to ‘is’) Anti-Zionist, he believes that Putin is still part of the New World Order. This is his formula: New World Order= Zionist + Anti-Zionist.

    I guess that is the Hegelian Dialect, the process of pitting two controlled forces against each other in order to get a desired result. Thesis, Anti-Thesis, and Synthesis result.

    Henry’s article here: http://www.rense.com/general83/PUT.HTM

    Personally, I hope Putin is not just playing a part of this evil Hegelian scheme but is the genuine thing. A high level of discernment and knowledge is certainly a requirement in today’s world to know what is really going on!

  37. Loren August 25, 2008 @ 3:40 pm

    @ Br. Nathanael,

    In my previous post, I misspelled your name and I apologize. I try to be very careful with my spelling, but sometimes I get it wrong – evidence of my own fallen Adamic nature.

    @ Dave,

    In reference to “The entire foundation for Christianity is very tenuous at best and has been spun and embellished for millennia.”, I couldn’t DISAGREE more!

    I’ve been a Christian for over 30 years. I have studied the Bible and many books from authors who have delved into some aspect or so of the Bible and other matters. I am NOT making any claim to being a walking cosmic encyclopedia concerning the Bible, nor anything else. But I can say that I have been exposed – even directly by God Himself – to some amazing and ground-breaking information that TOTALLY backs up the Bible and its so-called-by-unbelievers “stories” as being truth and not myth/bedtime-stories.

    I can truly state to you and the world, that the more I have delved into the Bible, and the more I have pressed into God for more information, the more that has been revealed to me, both in the spiritual as well as in the natural, so much so that it ABSOLUTELY anchors my faith and belief that the Bible is the inerrant Word of God in all its facets and respects.

    What the problem is, is that our interpretations, and subsequent applications, of the Bible, in spite of our best efforts, are not always accurate, or maybe accurate at one level or two, but needs further examinations, interpretations, and applications for the higher levels. That is, the Word of God is not uni-layered but multi-layered, not static but dynamic, not dead but LIVING! And this means, that one needs to continue to study the Scriptures, because a one-time-only-reading won’t do, no more than watering a seedling tree one time won’t be enough to ensure the establishing of its roots and its future growth and maturation.

    The only way that anyone can tap into the Living Word of God and all its teachings and mysteries is through accepting Jesus Christ as the One and True Son of the Living God and of the sacrifice He paid at Calvary. Then, one must embrace a continual and consistent diet of fertilizer (Word of God) and water (Spirit of God) to continue growth unto maturation (eternity).

    For those who doubt and disbelieve the Bible, don’t. If Christianity, especially Westernized Christianity, is a hindrance to embracing the Bible, don’t let it. But delve into the Bible. Trust God to prove Himself, His Word, and the sacrifice of His Son, through His Word and His Word only. Then, you will begin to see more and more of His Light, Life, and Love that He had planned for you from way back to “In the beginning” (Genesis 1:1).

    The Truth is in there (ie, the Bible)!

  38. Orthodox Russian August 25, 2008 @ 5:35 pm

    @ Benjamin Shlomo

    Remember who was first forgiven and went to the Paradise with Lord Jesus being on the Cross next to him. I do believe that possibly Putin was a Royal Arch Freemason but is no longer a Freemason and has broken free of his mind programming, according to Tomlinson. BUT HE REPENTED, AS THIEF ON THE CROSS, AS APОSTLE PAUL, AS KING MANASSEH.

    Here is the Repentance Prayer of the King Manasseh

    Prayer of Manasseh
    O Lord, Almighty God of our fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and of their righteous seed; who hast made heaven and earth, with all the ornament thereof; who hast bound the sea by the word of thy commandment; who hast shut up the deep, and sealed it by thy terrible and glorious name; whom all men fear, and tremble before thy power; for the majesty of thy glory cannot be borne, and thine angry threatening toward sinners is importable: but thy merciful promise is unmeasurable and unsearchable; for thou art the most high Lord, of great compassion, longsuffering, very merciful, and repentest of the evils of men. Thou, O Lord, according to thy great goodness hast promised repentance and forgiveness to them that have sinned against thee: and of thine infinite mercies hast appointed repentance unto sinners, that they may be saved. Thou therefore, O Lord, that art the God of the just, hast not appointed repentance to the just, as to Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, which have not sinned against thee; but thou hast appointed repentance unto me that am a sinner: for I have sinned above the number of the sands of the sea. My transgressions, O Lord, are multiplied: my transgressions are multiplied, and I am not worthy to behold and see the height of heaven for the multitude of mine iniquities. I am bowed down with many iron bands, that I cannot life up mine head, neither have any release: for I have provoked thy wrath, and done evil before thee: I did not thy will, neither kept I thy commandments: I have set up abominations, and have multiplied offences. Now therefore I bow the knee of mine heart, beseeching thee of grace. I have sinned, O Lord, I have sinned, and I acknowledge mine iniquities: wherefore, I humbly beseech thee, forgive me, O Lord, forgive me, and destroy me not with mine iniquites. Be not angry with me for ever, by reserving evil for me; neither condemn me to the lower parts of the earth. For thou art the God, even the God of them that repent; and in me thou wilt shew all thy goodness: for thou wilt save me, that am unworthy, according to thy great mercy. Therefore I will praise thee for ever all the days of my life: for all the powers of the heavens do praise thee, and thine is the glory for ever and ever. Amen.

    So I do believe that some zionists will inevitably repent in the end as King Manasseh did.

  39. Ken August 25, 2008 @ 6:40 pm

    Greg,

    I hear what you are saying. And I agree but see the reflection of your precept in another way.

    Jesus got down on his hands and knees and washed the feet of the apostles. He WAS the elite and yet he served them! And his message was clear – that the ‘elite’ were to be servants.

    A leader will not have a true following unless his followers love him. And there is no more powerful demonstration than to put yourself below others or to sacrifice yourself for others who are less worthy than you are. The system of things in the US is far from this Christian principle.

    This speaks to your words of equality. Whether in class, race or gender. However, I would qualify my position here in saying that gender does have its roles. Women were not to lead. There is a reason for this that few people understand. They serve a supporting role. Not of any less importance, but a different role. It is not that they are to be recognized as being able to do what a man does but that we recognize them for the unique role that they play in the greater whole of two people becoming one. The same is true of their roles in society. Of course in the world we know, the topic of money is always on the womens mind. This is the pursuit of mammon. Sinful behavior.

    Feminism is just the pursuit and obsession of money and power by women. In this sense, they are ‘equal’ in their sin with the men who have traditionally done the same thing.

    Rather, it was to be equivalent roles but different.

    The most extreme feminists say that men are not needed other than to impregnate. And so the man is treated as a source of a fluid and then cast aside. It is the complete opposite of what it used to be when men mistreated women simply as a womb as a repositor for the same fluid and then to be cast aside. Feminism is but a reflection of the same unholiness that the corrupt men used to do (and some still do).

    In any event, back to the main topic here, the elite SERVING the poor. This is what our current administration lacks.

    Imagine if a CEO of an oil company were to call his company together and say: “look, I am not going to take a salary any higher than the least paid amoung you.”

    But that will never happen in the elite’s unholiness in this country.

    What we have is just the opposite of what Jesus taught. They desire and find pleasure in mistreating others as below them. They say that their “survival of the fittest” gives them the right to treat people this way. It assure that our society will never grow to a greater state.

    That the elite would truly belittle themselves before others. This is what Jesus taught. It has to do with Love. This world, and particularly the administration here in the US, the corporate elite, has not learned that yet. The truth of the matter is that people like Bush, Cheney and Rice, they do not know what love is. The have made choices all their lives that have blackened and hardened their hearts. And so they look but cannot see and listen but cannot hear. The mistreat others and lead us into all unholiness.

    That is why I pray for them.

  40. Jim DeTexas August 25, 2008 @ 7:38 pm

    OFF THE SUBJECT……..

    My niece just sent me a message that her marine boyfriend sat through a briefing today in which they listened to a general talk about going to war, “a new war” he wasn’t sure where yet but he was sure there would be a new war. Anyone heard anything of this? I’m thinking Iran.

  41. nic August 25, 2008 @ 7:55 pm

    nice job again brother Nathanael,www.eaec.org

  42. Loren August 25, 2008 @ 8:00 pm

    @ Jim Eagle Feather :

    In referring to Russia as “a nation whose stock market is about 200 billion dollars in value”, as though that yardstick was a good and proper measure of Russia’s (or any other nation’s) value as a nation or its contributions to the world now and in its past, is testimony to one’s smallness of mind and dullness of heart and hardness of spirit.

    Whereas the stock market of the United States is colossal in comparison to Russia’s, we’ll see
    who’s stock market has the most value when the United State’s economy collapses, or is purposefully “blown” via another 9-11 event as a cover for its dying corpse.

    The fact is, there is a significant amount of the US stock market that owes its existence to deriving profits from the worst things one could ever image – drug running, distribution, sales, and laundering; prostitution; porn; child sex; slavery; shorting stocks on 9-11 to make billions off the deaths of 3000 victims; the “War on Terror” charade; stealing the wealth of people and families via the housing market collapse and throwing them into the streets; abortion as a means of birth control to gloss over the sins of two “consenting” adults, even if married; the spilling of innocent blood (Afghans, Iraqis, and now Georgians and Ossentians, and of course, our own soldiers and support personnel) via the unholy US/Israeli/Zionist war against the rest of the world to establish world control and dominion unto themselves, etc, etc.

    The US economy and its stock market are so vile, and remain so unrepentant, even in the natural proper-financial-procedures sense, that God has only one choice left in dealing with it and US – allow the plug to be pulled. And for those Christians who have fornicated with the stock market, becoming “enablers” and “facilitators” of its evil satanic activities via your “investments”, God will hold you even more accountable than the godless for the atrocities the US government and corporations have committed against its own citizens as well as the peoples of the world through the use of your monies that should have been given directly to “the poor and needy” as God’s way of investing.

    I have no empathy for “neocons” and others of that convoluted and perverted mindset.

    Every nation, even as every person, has a right to self-defense of its person and possessions.

    So Russia has every right to defend its own peoples and interests in Ossentia from the unwarranted aggressions and murderous rampages of the NWO/Zionist/Talmudic forces within and backed by the US government and oil / big business interests. If Russia did something like that in, say Alaska, we’d have every right to be kicking their butts (well, maybe not, as our government is quick to fight far-off wars of aggression for unrighteous gain, but would probably leave us at home to fend for ourselves, in which case, Alaska would fare better if it petitioned Russia for the peaceful entry into the Russian Federation).

    Now, don’t get me wrong. I AM fiercely patriotic! But on the other hand, I well know that those scumbags within our own nation, government, and business interests would sell their own mothers into prostitution for a quick buck and to gain “leverage” over someone else for future exploitation. So if it’s a future with the Christ-denying fornicating scumbags, or with the Christ-believing Russian Orthodox Church, I’d pick the latter.

    It’s time to clean hoUSe. Either we do it, or God will. And no one, not even Christians who are “right with God”, will like it if God has to clean our hoUSe! And time is running out …

  43. Ali August 26, 2008 @ 11:02 am

    To Dave,

    The story of the virgin mary is not only known to christians but to muslims too. Your comment here is an insult to over 3 billion people on this earth. Muslims believe in virgin mary and the miracle birth of Jesus christ.
    Peace

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