State Of Israel: Not Biblical Prophecy!
State Of Israel: Not Biblical Prophecy!
JEWS & EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS claim that the modern State of Israel is a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy. This claim evinces a shallow and errant understanding of the Bible.
The meek shall inherit the earth said Jesus Christ to His disciples. But where do we see any hint of “meekness” in the conduct of the Jews? Jesus also said, Blessed are the peacemakers. But the Jews are warmongers not peace makers. The world has experienced nothing but turmoil since the creation of Israel in 1948.
The theft of Arab lands by the Jews before and after the U.N. partition of Palestine in 1948 is evidence enough to incriminate the Jews of breaking the commandment: “Thou Shalt Not Steal.” Why make God an accomplice to thievery by saying that Israel is a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy?
See Records Of Dispossession, Fischbach
The prophet Isaiah said: The Lord shall regather Israel a second time. (Isaiah 11). Jews and Evangelicals claim that the “second time” of the return of the Jews was fulfilled in the creation of the State of Israel in 1948. But the “second time” already took place 500 years before Christ:
The 1st Return Of The Jews: The Jews were living as exiles in Egypt when Moses brought the 12 tribes back to the land of Canaan in 1445 BC.
The 2nd Return Of The Jews: The Jews were living as exiles throughout the vast Babylonian Empire which Isaiah perceived as the four corners of the world when Ezra brought only 3 tribes back to the land of Israel in 536 BC. These were the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi. The other tribes were lost forever. Just prior to 70 AD, Herod destroyed the remaining tribal records, especially those of Levi, the priestly tribe.
BEHOLD YOUR HOUSE is left unto you desolate, said Jesus Christ to the unbelieving Jews. (Matthew 23) Christ finished His censure by adding, And you will not see Me until you say, “Blessed is He that cometh in the name of the Lord”. Thus the Jews can truly fulfill Biblical prophecy by repenting of their sins and confessing the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Church is the focus of the New Testament. Did not St Paul say that the Old Testament has passed away? Did not St Paul write that a new priesthood and a new law–the law of the Spirit and not the law of the letter– is the New Testament’s creed? (Hebrews 7,8). Why then are Evangelicals and Jews haphazardly pulling passages out of context from the Old Testament to prove that the racist State of Israel is Biblical?
Zionism’s aim is to establish the Jews as rulers over all the nations. The Zionists are beginning to do this through their insinuations into diplomatic circles throughout the world. This is the main reason why the State of Israel was pursued by the Jews at the turn of the 20th century. Then the rebuilding of the Temple, (the furniture is already built), will house the Jewish Anti Christ who will terrorize the entire world with Jewish domination.
Are we not already seeing foreshadowings of the Anti Christ vis a vis the Jewish disturbances of world peace? Look at the War in Iraq. Look at the Jewish neocons crying for a war against Iran. Look at the intensification of world wide Muslim terrorism because of the injustices of the Zionist state of Israel? Christians are to “reprove the works of darkness” – not support it. (Ephesians 5)
THE EVANGELICALS TELL US that God has a separate plan for the Jews and a separate plan for the Church. But St Paul distinguishes 3 classes of society in I Corinthians 10 and Galatians 6 with the emphasis on “The Israel of God,” which is the Church:
1. Jews: “Enemies of the Cross”
2. Gentiles: “Pagans & Idolaters”
3. The Church of God: “The Israel of God”
THE ONLY PLAN that God has for the “enemies of the Cross and “idolaters” is that they become Christians and join the Mystical Body of Christ. St Paul wrote, God has broken down the middle wall of partition between Jews and Gentiles to make in Himself one new man, so making peace. (Ephesians 2)
But the Jews are at war with the New Testament vision for the brotherhood of man. The Jews hate Jesus Christ and are hell-bent on eradicating Christianity throughout the world. They even created a State dedicated to the denial of Jesus Christ! How then could Israel be a fulfillment of Biblical prophecy when it denies the Messiah Jesus Christ?
The racist State of Israel is “Satan’s plan for the Jews” – to wage war against the Christian Church. Jesus Christ predicted this when He said to St Peter, “I will build my Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.” Truly the Jews are a massive fortification of the “gates of hell,” desperately attempting to prevail against Christ’s Holy Church. How then could any one justify “blessing Israel” knowing of their hatred for Jesus Christ?
Let the Jews quit their racist State of Israel and their waging of war against Christ and His Church. Yes – let the Jews join the true brotherhood of man, the Mystical Body of Christ.
Then we can begin to see God’s plan for the Jews fulfilled before our very eyes. For former Jews like myself who now call themselves Christians are the true fulfillment of Biblical prophecy!
Brother Nathanael…Street Evangelist
Brother Nathanael @ November 17, 2007
Tell it like it is, Brother Nathanael!
“# admin March 6, 2008 @ 9:21 pm
Dear Batista,
Oh how I disagree with you!
The Bolshevik Jews were atheist godless persecutors who murdered 50,000 Russians!
But Christ is the Prince of Peace and Christianity has made a very postive mark on civilization for the last 2000 years.
Go back and do some historical homework dear Batista and don’t simply sputter at the mouth. +BN
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Try 50 000 000 – will be MORE correct…
Jesus told us he had foretold us all things, so I must say it is prophesied the setting up of this Israel State, but it isn’t the House of Israel or even Judah here.
They will accept a messiah all right; he will be Antichrist (instead of Christ).
It must come to pass as it is written. Study the Word!!!!
Great website Brother Nathanael.
You are a rare breed nowadays. Not many people dare to speak out against injustice like you do.
I know where this power to speak out against injustice comes from: God.
God bless you and keep continuing your important work.
What can be said of the Karaite Judaism which as i understand do not follow the talmud nor kabbala. In fact they just follow the whole old testament not just the torah part. where not perscuted by the nazis
I used to be dispensationalist, then I went to preterism.
After reading the late Tupper Saussy’s book, “Rulers Of Evil”, I realized who the Jesuits were and how United States was really formed. Well, when I learned that the Jesuits practically invented both dispensationalism and preterism, I left preterism.
Now you can say I’m a Historicist such as at historicism.com
Anyway, I’m having my heart broken over a woman I haven’t even met (except over the Internet) over the issue of Joel Rosenberg of the “The Last Jihad” and “Epicenter” fame.
He is a big promoter of Ezekiel 38 foretelling a future Gog/Magog world.
I am sooooo confused.
I have been trying to study and figure this out, about the Jews and the Israelis and the Zionists and the Khazars, etc.
And I must say “GOD only knows,” I sure don’t, but thanks to you and your explanations, and the feed back from this group, I feel I may be getting closer.
Thank You very much and God Bless you.
Actually it seems the so called modern state of Israel is fulfilling Scripture.
Just not the one they are preaching in these phony judeo/christian churches.
In John’s Gospel he lays it out clearly: “Bring those who refuse to be governed by me before my feet and slaughter them there.”
Could this false Israel that has been created be that fulfillment of that command? Seems to me it might be, but I could be wrong.
Interesting question though, when you ponder it, because how else can you explain God allowing the creation of this phony state of israel, except maybe to fullfill that command to gather them before his feet and slaughter their ass?
Could be the final blow to the serpent’s head as prophesized in Genesis, when God cursed the serpent.
There have been many blows to the serpent’s head in the past, but maybe this will be the final one. Who knows, but sure looks like it too me.
So few understand that you are absolutely correct. My prayers are with you.
It has been said that the only people that make it to the top are those who take bribes or do the bidding of the devil or his disciples.
Therefore, chances are we will never have a decent honest President. Prepare for the horrors that lie ahead.
I shared some of this information on this web site about the Zionists to my friend who is a very kind, loving Christian. She, like most Americans believe that God blesses those who bless Israel.
I told her that Israel are the Christ-loving Christians, but she doesn’t believe me.
Ask her why she thinks God would bless those who bless the very people who deny Him. Is He a masochist?
I think the 144,000 are priests and religious who refuse to follow the antichrist’s “lieutenant,” the anti pope, once he is installed in Rome, and become martyrs just like the religious in England, France, and Russia, and other places under Henry VIII, The French and Russian “Revolutions.”
They are virgins as they take a vow of celibacy. Who else does that? And maybe they can trace their lineage back to the Jews of the Diaspora, who knows? Jews are everywhere.
The Bible says that the powers that be are established by Him.
That we “believers” should be subject to all powers and principalities and magistrates (paraphrased).
Does this mean that whatever our President and government stands for we should be in agreement?
Thanks and please keep up the good work!
God did make a covanent with the Jews, God promised them a “promise land,” but only when they gave up worshiping the golden calf.
But alas they still worship the golden calf (wealth).
The peace of Christ be with you, Brother Nathanael.
Let’s preach the true gospel of God’s SPIRITUAL Kingdom that we enter through Christ’s gift, and refute the heresy of the Jew-British New Age Millenial Kingdom of ‘God on Earth.’
Hooray for Orthodox Christianity!
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WOW! My Mom’s gonna be pissed when she finds out Hagee and others work for satanic Jews!
I don’t think she’d know how to handle knowing we’ll go through hell before Jesus returns! GL everyone!
Thank God for you!
I agree with Sonja.
The “anti-Christ” will be the Pharisees’ version of the Messiah. He will be the antithesis of Jesus or else he would be rejected once again.
So if he is the opposite of Jesus, what would he be? A “real” person of nobility (for instance a “Baron” or a “Duke”). I think that Judas and his great sin was that he was trying to make Jesus an earthly king because he understood what Jesus was preaching in a worldly, finite way.
Definitely, the Anti-Christ would be rich, not the lowly son of a carpenter. He would be promoting wealth here on this earth, instead of the “storing” up of treasures in Heaven. He would be a true Son of Darkness — just as Jesus proclaimed the Pharisees to be sons of darkness.
It is interesting to note than when Jesus was taken to the highest mountain and offered all of the kingdoms of the world and the riches thereof by Satan, if He would fall down and worship him, Satan had the real power to give him those things because Satan truly owns them in this material, concrete world.
The only redemption and re-ordering of the world was offered by Jesus when he elevated the Kingdom of God to a realm higher than this concrete world.
The symbolism is massive to support the new realm: a “new” Jerusalem — not the current one which is certainly not obeying the laws of love; a “new” heaven — not one based on obeying the impossible laws of the Old Testament, but one based on grace, forgiveness, and love; an everlasting life versus an everlasting death (because death was the sentence for not obeying the impossible “Laws” of the Old Testament).
There are just so many symbols (shadows) in the Old Testament pointing the the perfection in the New Testament.
Thank you Brother Nathanael.
I published a simple web page a couple of years ago called The Chosen to try to refute the idea that the state of Israel was the biblical prophecy about the return of the Jews. I also refer to the Christian Church as the Israel of God on it, as St. Paul did. I hope you don’t mind if I link this page to mine?
This is mine, http://www.whymostfail.com/chosen.html
I also believe that caradoc1 is on to something. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-5 confirms what he says. The day of the Lord is not to come till the man of sin be revealed. The Apostles’ traditions are to be observed.
Quote 2 Thessalonians 2:1-5
“1 And we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and of our gathering together unto him: 2 That you be not easily moved from your sense, nor be terrified, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by epistle, as sent from us, as if the day of the Lord were at hand.
“3 Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, 4 Who opposeth, and is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself as if he were God.
“5 Remember you not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things?”
The Zionists, freemasons, and some Evangelicals want to build the third temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Just do a Google search for third temple.
God bless the Israel of God
Mike
Every where the Jews have ever been on earth has resulted in uncountable disaster.
The same troublemakers occupying Palestinian land is the same type who were the cause of World War 1 and over 8 million people lost their lives.
It was because of them we all ended up in World War 2.
They have attacked their every one of their Arab neighbours. They nearly destroyed Lebanon in 2006.
They massacre Muslim women and children and committed ethnic cleansing in Gaza.
They gave false information to the Bush Administration to get over one million Arabs killed. They also want to attack the Iranians, even though Iran has the largest community of Jews living in Iran outside Israel in the Middle East, because they are liars, murderers, thieves, they are no good.
They have bankrupted the world now to add to it all, because they control all the Banks of Europe and the American FED.
They worship Lucifer, they sacrifice to Molech some Babylonian god, they kidnap and kill peoples’ children. 2000 years of war, and for every war they lend money to both sides so they make money when governments borrow money to buy guns and bombs.
They are evil. What they want is to destroy the West. When they have finished they can go to live in Israel and all the nuclear bombs in the world will be pointed at them.
I am a Nasrani, ie traditional Jewish Christians formed from 52AD from St. Thomas.
We accepted Jewish traditions, ie Orthodox we were. But our Messiah Jesus Christ was our body and our GOD.
Even we traditional Jews who accepted Jesus from 52AD feels that the method followed by the Zionist Jews were very disturbing. It is very disturbing to us the occupation in Gaza.
Great commentary.
Most Enlightening.
Please keep up your good work..
What a wresting of Scripture here in this blog.
This person tries to make it seem that God hates the Jews.
Jesus Christ is himself a Jew, that he would forsake his own people is absurd and not Scriptural.
Paul said He did not cast away Israel his people.
When the children of Israel left Egypt they had not been driven there by God, nor were they then under the curse from God which had not even been given yet.
That came later.
Their leaving Egypt cannot be counted as a re-gathering.
The signs and seasons mentioned in the Bible agree (solar eclipses and planets in conjunction); i.e., with the Jews becoming a state in 1948, they’re taking back Jerusalem in 1967, with they being kicked out of Spain in 1492.
Their dispersion in 70 AD.
The blood red moon in the sky, solar eclipses, and such appear during the Jewish feast days and it is only then, it is as if God is showing the world who Israel is by the signs and seasons.
The blood red moon, the solar eclipses have all occurred when ethnic Israel was in change. The alignment of the planets.
Prophecy in The News has some great videos at you tube that show this.
People can talk like this blogger here but no one can disprove the signs and seasons in the heavens that coincide with all that has happened and is happening with ethnic Israel.
What is the connection between Jews and Jehovah’s Witnesses??
Dear Brother Nathanael:
I agree with the most part of Your excellent explanations.
Matthew 23:38-39 says indeed that the house of the Jews would to them desolate. But I have a question: is it nevertheless possible that verse 39 could mean that there will be a time in the future that a remnant of Jews will call on the Lord during as the Bible calls it elsewhere “the time of great distress for Jacob”?
And when this happens, that this remnant will call to the Lord, that the Lord Jesus will return?
And: How must we explain Zechariah 14:1-5? Some Christians think that those verses has to do with the end of times when Jerusalem will be sieged by hostile armies, just before the return of Jesus to this Earth.
Thank You very much beforehand.
Dear Nathanael, Evangelist.
Thanks for a very informative web site!
You are very close to my own opinions when discussing Israel and Zionism.
Check out my latest article, called ‘Why the Dispensation of the Church Has Become so Old’.
Here is a direct link for you:
http://www.gracepano.com/index.php?Ing=en&menu=O&art=256
With Regards Jan Lilleby, Norway.
Some scriptural keys to Israel’s current regathering are Ezekiel 36 and 37 (the dry bones), and Jeremiah 30.
These passages make it clear that the restoration of Israel as a nation begins with “flesh” and ends with spirit and faith. If God has chosen to use the secular Jewish banking world to partially facilitate the “fleshly” ingathering, that is His business.
It does not prove that Zionism and all Jews are evil and it should not be an excuse for Jew hatred.
There are many stories concerning this present return of Jews to Israel that are not related to the Rothschild’s etc. but are clearly God’s sovereign work (e.g. the return of Yemenite Jewry which was stimulated by a prophetic tradition within their community).
The Biblical prophets all describe a process which culminates in a spiritual revival of Israel and a restored kingdom. (see also Acts 1:6-8).
A balanced understanding of the situation is that there are evil elements within this last-days’ fulfillment which will culminate in an Anti-christ, but these evil elements will be completely purged from the land (Zech 13:8-9).
Finally there will be a vindication of God’s name and purposes (Ezek.36:20-24) and a restoration of the Jewish remnant to the God of Israel and His true Messiah.
I do find this sense of ethnic superiority is not limited to the Jews.
Er, Aryan Nation anyone? I’m half Irish and fell well and truely into the trap of Irish-idolatry when I was younger. But, look, I hate to be patronising, but here’s how you sort out the stress and strain of it all: it’s happening at the level of human-beings.
People crave power, not God.
God does not empower the Rothschilds or anyone else, money does, people do, networks do, social-power strives immorally to perpetuate itself.
It’s just a long story of corruption and human fallibility. Nothing to do with God at all. Maybe some weird alien, but not God.
All you have to do is look at what this nation was in 1948 before we started recognizing and helping the so-called state of Israel.
And we can see that we have been under a curse which are the “blessings” of this bogus Israel or Zionist-occupied Palestine.
Since 1948:
We haven’t won a war since then.
We have a 20 trillion dollar national debt.
Prayer has been taken out of school.
Abortion has become a billion dollar industry.
Pornography has become a multi-billion dollar industry.
We have paper money and pot metal coins instead of gold and silver.
Sodomites are in the pulpits and the halls of power.
We lead the world in borrowing money.
We have the world’s biggest trade deficit.
Reading your articles is so refreshing.
You are prepared to tell the truth about the Zionists and domination of the mainstream Media by the filthy and deceitful Jews. You have revealed their true agenda, an agenda that is designed to protect the state of Israel, regardless of the cost to America and its beautiful people.
They have established countless organizations and agencies to make sure that people cannot criticize them. The ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center, AIPAC and other agencies and lobbies are corrupted every aspect of American life and culture.
Every time that they criticize Israel or the NeoCons and Jews they simply brand them “anti semite” and people run for cover.
Whether those individuals are making legitimate points is of no consequence.
We need to take our country back and tell the Israelis and America Jews that put Israel before America to make a choice and decide where their allegiance lies. If it’s with Israel then they can go back to Israel. If its America, then they need to stay and support America’s interests, not ISRAEL’S.
I fully back the warning concerning the ‘man made’ State of Israel.
Certainly it is told of in Luke, eventually to be… punished in fulfillment of all that has been written. Concerning this, it is important to learn that this man made State is a Zionist creation, being rebuked and warned of by obedient (true) Jewish since 1897 (the beginning of Zionism). Learn to separate Zionism from true and devout Jewish.
Concerning the Latin “millennium,” this is a deliberate mis-translation from Revelations 20, in which you will find there is actually (two) Chilioi (Greek) having both a figurative and symbolic purpose, and in this context is obviously symbolic concerning events being described, as is Revelation.
With prayer beforehand and searching the HS after, read this web-article:
http://rtpricetag.home.comcast.net/~rtpricetag/Millennium.html
I would add, that misusing Scripture is common with Christians and Zionists concerning when God regathers the scattered.
This is done by misusing Scripture regarding the regathering such as Ezek 11:17, but not mentioning ‘conditional’ Scripture such as Ezek 20:34-38 when first the rebels that revolt are purged and will not enter Israel (eternal).
Nor when this will occur as told in Hosea 3:4-5 in the ‘last days.’ Christ foretold this in Matt 23:37-39 when He said they would not see Him again until they declared Him Lord.
But again, read the warning of obedient Jews ( http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ ) and do not demonize obedient Jewish for the error of Zionism, although the Bible appears to foretell this error done.
It is a bit odd that, when discussing the state of the Planet, the politics and future plans, the ONE force that is influencing the world and us the most is never mentioned.
The ROT-SH-TS alone own 50%!!! of all values/assets on the planet! Then comes the Rockyfellars, the Soros, Kuhn & Loeb, and all the other Zionist-bankers to share the rest! Left to the people are some 10% to share.
If not all money were collected by them, would hunger be a normal human condition? If their criminally gained wealth be spread we can all live in comfort and FREEDOM! in the future!
Is it not about time that they are drawn into the discussions and considerations?
What are the results of their aggressive weapons-and arms manufacturing?
What are the consequences of their productions of poisons and GM-mis-modification for the eco-sphere?
Why should we go to war and die to fill their coffers? etc.
Those awaiting an Antichrist might think of who is the most, materialistically advanced of all?
Does his actions, his very existence cause what you expect from an Antichrist? I mean are 30,000 children a day starving to death as a direct result of his actions??? Are people in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia being murdered at their dinner-table by autists sitting in bunkers in California?
They listen to your phone-calls, spy on your computers, have established 700 KZ-camps and have bases 1000 places around the Planet, but they are not FASCISTS?
STOP THIS NONSENSE!!!, one family CANNOT own all valuables on the Planet — in particular not a family with lizard-connections.
WOW!!!!!!!!!!! I THOUGHT SO.
I HAVE EMPLOYEES FROM ETHIOPIA WHO SAYS THEY ARE THE ISRAELITES?
My late father used to clamor that the Jews would ultimately drag us into a huge war.
Are we getting closer to that time? I hope that more young people begin to understand the basic insidious nature of pro-Jew, neo-conservativism and the duplicity of Jews themselves.
As Jew central bankers have facilitated the demise of our economy, many young people see few options other than joining the Jew-dominated American military.
This is a most precarious predicament that we find ourselves! It appears that Israeli Jews, the ADL, and AIPAC have us all by the neck and the gonads.
It’s crummy living as a low-life sycophant and slave to the Jews!
I would warn again not to claim or charge that (all) Jewish are bad, devout Jewish (obedient to God and Torah) have warned the world (beginning in 1890’s) about secular Zionism longer that any people on earth.
Click on my name for my research into the origin of the secular Zionist, this began by unbelieving Jewish men calling themselves the Zionist Congress in 1897.
Modern Israel – Judea calling itself king of the north but in truth 1/12 thereof; is truly I tell you fully in prophecy!
DANIEL 7. In 1947 Jews [mainly USSR origin] approached the United Nations for annexation of Palestine for the Nation State of Israel.
The United Kingdom [the lion] & U.S.A. [eagles wings] as one in concert after WW2 were torn apart when the Eagles Wings voted with the Bear [USSR] against The Lion persuading the 4 winged Leopard [Lebanon, Syria, Jordan & Egypt] into accepting the proposal.
Thus the 4th beast nation was born [Israel] going on to crush down all around it. The lion [UK] was made to walk on it’s own 2 feet alone as policeman for the first 12 months [being repeatedly bombed by the Stern Gang thus showing how terrorism can be used as a weapon in the Middle East & the world] despite being the only nation to oppose the annexation.
This nation [mine & the Lord’s] brings forth the Anti-Christ [see the Anti-Christ is a Jew] as the 8th head & 11th horn [king without a kingdom] the king before him had the fatal sword wound[Rabin] & the beast walked on not going to war with the Palestinians – turned out to be minor Mossad operative.
Mrs Rabin at her husband’s memorial service pointed at the new P.M. [8th horn, 11th king] Binyamin Netanyahu accusing him of complicity. This man goes on to subduing 3 kings before returning to power – thus begins the last week.
If I am correct he will be removed as Rev 12 says 1260 days after his return by Michael & his angels on surprisingly Michael & all angels day 2012.
So is Israel [the Beast] in prophecy – most definitely – they as ‘the first will be last’ will receive our Messiah last; sadly only the remnant will be saved.
Daniel 2.This is the Holyland’s [kingdom of heaven on earth] rulers until the time of Christ [feet of clay]. Note the legs of iron ruled over by the Jewish kings under Jewish Law [thus was Jesus murdered as Pilot found Him innocent under Roman Law] as a province of Rome.
The signs are abundant & evident. Who has eyes to see & ears to hear the signs of the times?
Maranatha, Shalom.
– How then could Israel be a fulfillment of Biblical Prophecy when it denies the Messiah Jesus Christ? – Thanks for this very interesting and important question leading to think about it.
Everything that happens on earth, is foreseen and well known by the Lord before it happens.
Good things and bad things.
It is written in the Biblical Prophecy that there will come a cruel time to Israel, enemies from many places will fight against it and also Judah will fight against it. Does this Judah mean the Judaism or the religion of Talmud or a militant political cruelty inside the country of Israel?
First a political secular Israel, led by political humans, will come. After then the spiritual Kingdom of freedom is coming down on Israel, led by the mighty King, will come and then Zion will be the holy mountain of the Lord. This secular Zion in this time on this earth is filled with hate, blood, killings, war, death and tears.
How many religious people or evangelical, who take the holy name of Jesus in their mouth, but are declaring a cruel fighting Israel as a Holy Land?
It is a bad fulfillment but sadly truth, done by man against man, people against people, to fulfill what is promised about them. How many Religious believe that all Jews over the world will realize their needing of forgiveness and realize Jesus as the Messiah and get saved at last.
They have been taught about the coming earthly Kingdom of Israel that Jews are the spiritual, religious and political leaders of all Non-Jews forever. Because they believe and love this message, they are proudly going into their own slavery, proudly fighting wars for a secular Israel and their beloved Jews and give all the power to them.
For them never mind, if that Jews believe in the Messiah Jesus or not, because they are sure, one day all the Jews will do it. Also these blinded religious warriors believe that all Palestine people are enemies. How dramatic. All of this happens in the name of Jesus. Be careful.
Brother Nathanael, be holded well by the King of Freedom. There is no peace on earth. Thanks for making these pages possible!
I invite all who read this site to visit my web site, http://www.whathathGodsaid.org and have a great Bible study.
Br. Nathanael is very correct when he shows that the nation of Israel is not God’s chosen people anymore.
Every Jew must individually repent and be born again.
One of my papers is titled Natural Israel-Revelation 17. and there are more. This world, especially the so called Christian evangelical world, is very, very deceived.
http://www.whathathGodsaid.org
CUFI (Christians United For Israel) whose founder is John Hagee is one of the worst enemies to the Jewish people.
He continues his lies about how the Jewish people don’t have to repent and accept Jesus Christ now to be saved for eternity.
Hagee states that once the false pretrib rapture occurs and all of the Christians are saved, then Jesus Christ the Savior will spend time with the Jews and then they will have an opportunity for salvation then.
Completely unscriptural and a “snare” for these people as well as the Christian Zionists who are aiding in bringing rebuilding some earthly temple so that the Jews may again begin their old covenant animal sacrifices in this beastly temple.
Did they not learn that they have NEVER been able to keep these old covenant laws of tradition?
Jesus Christ became the ultimate and final sacrificial lamb once and for all time. All praise to the one and only God Almighty.
Amen!
BEHOLD A WHITE HORSE
ANTICHRIST CONFIRMS THE COVENANT
IS ISRAEL GOING TO MAKE AN AGREEMENT WITH DEATH?
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world , and not after Christ.
After the covenant or treaty is agreed upon in Dan 9:27 (which the Antichrist will confirm with Israel and others), Israel will say, “We dwell in PEACE AND SAFETY”-As the Bible states in 1 Thes 5:3.
YHVH GOD’s Word tells us, regarding this covenant, BECAUSE YE HAVE SAID (Israel has said or boasted), “WE HAVE MADE (or entered into) A COVENANT (or treaty, or agreement) WITH DEATH (or with the Antichrist), AND WITH HELL (or the grave) ARE WE AT (or have made an) AGREEMENT (or have made a pact).”
In making a covenant with the Antichrist, Israel is, in effect, making an agreement with hell (or death). Israel says, WHEN THE OVERFLOWING (or overwhelming) SCOURGE SHALL PASS THROUGH (or sweeps by) (Israel), IT SHALL NOT COME UNTO US (it cannot touch us or reach us): FOR WE (Israel), HAVE MADE LIES (or a lie) OUR REFUGE, AND UNDER FALSEHOOD HAVE WE HID OURSELVES (we have concealed ourselves with deception-NASB)-Isa 28:15.
Israel should have trusted God for their protection. But they chose to make falsehood their hiding place, their protection, their hope. Israel has trusted in lies and in the Antichrist as their security, as their refuge, as their hope for peace. Israel believes that, because of the covenant with the Antichrist, when the overwhelming scourge shall pass through, they will be protected. Israel is blind to the truth of what they have done.
The Russian-Arab invasion of Israel should come soon after the Tribulation begins. As a result of that war, 1/4th of the world’s population will die. Over one billion people will die.
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The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem (Joel 3:16).
A second time warning (not) saying Jews, meaning all Jewish are in error as is Zionism.
Not all scattered out of Israel beginning 70AD. Over the following centuries more returned as devout for religious reasons, at one time numbering around 300,000.
These devout Jews, keeping the vows taught from Torah/Tanakh, made no attempt to re-establish Israel in Palestine, but called their Palestinian settlements as “Homeland” living in peace with their Arab (and after 600AD Muslim) neighbors.
So remember, even in the year-1897, some Jewish leaders rejected the Zionist and their State program. Remember also the devout described earlier (had) established national Homeland settlements 2000-years befor Zionism, and the Zionist stated desire to establish a Jewish “Homeland” in Palestine
“The 2nd Return Of The Jews: The Jews were living as exiles throughout the vast Babylonian Empire which Isaiah perceived as the four corners of the world when Ezra brought only 3 tribes back to the land of Israel in 536 BC. These were the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi. The other tribes were lost forever.”
The other tribes were NOT lost forever. They changed their name from Israelites to Christians. Jesus told the Apostles to feed His sheep, so they took the message of Christ crucified to Rome and Greece.
I’d like to thank Brother Nathaniel for his testimony, on how he became aware of the Truth, and was still willing to let go everything in order to follow Christ, for anybody that is not willing to let go of everything for Jesus Christ sake, does not deserve God’s mercy.
I see the different levels of understanding being expressed here, but one fact remains, we still don’t understand as much as we like to think we do.
Whether believers or just religious people, believe Israel is God’s real state or not, it won’t matter because in truth the whole universe belongs to Him since he created it by Himself without anybody’s help.
As to the claims that Jesus Christ must love the earthly Jew more because He “was a Jew,” that I call intellectual arrogance. Jesus Christ, to begin with is God’s Living Word, which my understanding tells me that we don’t even have a clue of what God’s total powers are.
But just imagine that if you could build a house by just saying the words and description of it and there it is. That I would say is power.
So God just created everything we see on earth and above and below sea level by calling it into existence from non-existence. And really only God knows if in reality what we think we see in space actually is there or not.
This is something a man could just ponder for its entire life or did God just make us believe all those things, like stars, planets, comets, etc. were made only to make us believe that we were not alone in the vast empty space above and us flouting around in space just our little earth the sun and moon and nothing else.
He said in the New Testament that at one point all stars will cease to give light. And someone tries to tie down Jesus Christ to a real state of Israel as that is the most important part, of all his creation.
God is no man to be figure out with anybody’s mind, and He, Himself alone reveals TRUTH AND WISDOM to his children when needed, but not to make us believe that we are wise, since even faith is given by Him in order to believe in Him and His living Word Jesus Christ, by the way of THE HOLY SPIRIT.
Everyone gets confused thinking the children of Israel are Jews. They were only one tribe: Judah, and which Benjam and Levi also joined.
When the Bible speaks of Israel it is not referring to the Jews alone in a lot of passages, much less the “state” that was created in 1948!
The northern 10 tribes split from the Jews because of the greed of the Jews!
I would agree with you that this return Israel to the holy land is a sign for the last days.
Since they were indeed pushed away twice already, plus the promise if they return, God’s punishment will return by sending of the Antichrist, and right after that the return of Jesus.
Both times they were punished because they did wrong, and therefore the holy land was forbidden for them.
Virginia…
Very few are aware of WHY the scattered people (House of Israel and House of Judah) for almost two thousand years (70AD-1948), made no attempt to re-establish Israel in Palestine.
The Northern House of Israel conquered (721BC) and carried away never to return, the Southern House of Judah the only people conquered but later having returned.
However after 70AD when also conquered and scattered, all were taught of God and Tanakh imposing 3 vows on the Jews, the first that while scattered they not attempt to re-establish Israel in Palestine.
These faithful to these vows tell of their obedience, despite the secular Zionist Congress (1900-Today): http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/rabbi_quotes/hirsch.cfm
The United States is not exempt from the wrath of God when he puts his foot down here shortly.
Neither is any other country for that matter. Most citizens of the US are trying to hold onto a system that is gonna come to an abrupt end soon!!
Behold sayeth the Lord, for I and my Father are gonna create a new heavens and a new earth, for the old heavens and thee old earth are gonna pass away. So people of the US, say goodbye to this old world. Let it go.
There is no hope and glory for the continuation of the US and the world as we know.
Get ready for the Holy one of Zion who’s coming back in a wrath of terror vengence and Holy Glory to put an end to this sick stupid world. Amen
And another thing, the Israel of God are those children that have been born-again of the Water, the Blood and the Risen Spirit of the sacrificed one. We are children of the Spirtual house of Israel/Zion. Shalom to all.
Even Jesus didn’t come to save this world.
Why is there 7 billion people tryin’ to do just that?
Cuz they obviously haven’t seen the vision of the New Earth, which means this old one has to go by the way side first. Come ye all little children and sit around the feet of the Yeshua Hamashi’a Meshi’ach — Jesus the Messiah, and he will give you rest.
Amen Lord God
I have felt in my spirit that there was something terribly wrong with this whole Israel situation of today.
I have been in the wilderness eating locusts and honey sitting at the feet of the Lord. He has been faithful to His Word when speaking about not needing a man to teach me He would teach me. It has always been an alarming sign to me when the herd is all running in 1 direction.
My Bible says that the Jerusalem of this world symbolizes Hagar. But our mother Jerusalem is from above.
The Lord revealed to me a levitical lineage straight back to Aaron and before to Kohath, but also gave me revelation that that is not what saves me.
He just promised to visit to 1000 generations those who love Him. And his other promise is to bring us [physical as well as spiritual] home through the Lord Jesus Christ……JESUS IS THE LORD!!!!!
It astounds me that even those of Hebrew or Israeli heritage will call themselves a ‘Jewish or Jew’, this being an English concocted word that was not found in manuscript or Bible until the 18th century (there is much evil that began at this time).
This word Jewish/Jew was later apparently substituted for what we call Judah/Judea/Judean/Judaean (House of Judah), limited to the tribes within the House of Judah, the two tribes being Judah and Benjamin (the largest and smallest of the twelve tribes). Some say Levi was also involved in part.
About the present political ‘State of Israel’, it is mentioned in the New Testament, in end times, within Luke 21:20-22 “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near.
“Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written.”
Also consider, for 2000-years between 70AD and 1900’s a total of 300,000 people-Israel, being those that had never left and those that had returned to Palestine ‘establishing settlements,’ lived in peace with Arab/Palestines and after 600AD with Muslims… this all true before the arrival of secular Zionism and their political-State.
Now you know why in the land we call the State of Israel including all of those scattered in the nations faithful and obedient to God are called these remnant that will be taken into the eternal Israel now in heaven.
New Testament describes ‘figuratively’ women representing ‘two covenants’ who are ‘Hagar and Sarah’, saying Gal 4:27: “Be glad, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have no labor pains; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband.”
Study this verse and see how Satan today has begun a religious war.
Do you understand how a ‘woman’ can be berran yet have the children of context from this verse?… do not confuse this with Ishmael and Isaac, Ishmael was watched over as a child by God, and promised to become a ‘great nation’… no curses but instead promise.
Hi Brother Nathanael,
I’d love to meet you if you’re ever in Arizona. I am moving to Sierra Vista next month and would love to say hello.
I really appreciate how you’ve been blessed by God and how your hard work has opened my mind to the real truth of a Jewish boycott against Jesus.
I for one, am committed to Him and I will try to support you as I am able. My blessings [for what it is worth] to you and yours.
Your Brother in Christ,
Marc Bellucci
I have a serious problem with bundling up all Jewish as responsible for Apartheid conditions within the State of Israel, the least of which the English word ‘Jew/Jewish’ did not exist before the 18th century.
As God has shown and the Apostle explained, not all that call themselves a Jew, are a Jew. What biblical prophecy pointed to, and historic fact validates, it has always been the unbelieving zealot-to-Zionist behind every problem in the Israel kingdoms and Jewish history.
Nor do but a few appear to know, God had imposed 3-vow’s upon the scattered, the important (one) that they not establish Israel again in Palestine.
True that from 70AD until year-1948 about 300,000 faithful Jew’s had not left and over centuries had returned establishing ‘Homeland’ settlements, and these living in peace with their Arab (after 600AD Muslim) neighbors, as God commanded them to live in peace.
SO, if you have a problem with deception and deceivers, do not speak ill of Jew/Jewish, take your problem up with those causing your problem, the secular and deceptive Zionist. A Jew cannot be a Zionist, and a Zionist cannot be a Jew, as easy as that.
Virginia
You were speaking about the Northern 10-tribes conquered and taken away around 721BC, that never returned, and today called the lost tribes.
I have an interesting puzzle for you to resolve.
These 10-tribes then were not among the House of Judah during Jesus ministry. But why then, when Jesus first sent out the disciples, He said do not go to Samaritans, but to the lost tribes ‘of the House of Israel’? Check out the original Greek in this verse.
Protestantism needs to reengage itself, and that means calling the past fifty-years of dismantling, bad for the various denominations of Protestantism; especially the Mainline and Evangelical institutional churches.
Thank you for this essay.
It is wonderful, and I have so many Zionist friends with which to share it.
Hi.
All true, but from what I can see its not all Jews, but ones who are actually secular and reject Judaism anyway.
In fact some Jews actively protest about the State of Israel claiming, as you do, it’s against prophesy and the Torah and demand for Jerusalem to be an international zone.
Good article and God bless you.
Darren
The Old Testament Covenant was conditioned by God who told Israel not to marry or give in marriage outside the community.
But this law was transgressed form the beginning which eventually Prophet Erza declared that marrying from the heathen was to be “cut off” from the covenant of Israel, ’cause it transgressed the law, rightfully so, for the very “first reason” for the fall of Israel was to fall for those heathen worships, “The Baggage” from their heathen wives, with Solomon himself being the first great Apostate.
This cutoff stands good to the day for there is not one Jew who can claim Racial Purity. Genetic scans are but for racial convenience & proves nothing.
It is to this that the Bible calls the Old Testament at an end & the New Testament which is the fullness of Christ Jesus, come not by the law but by the Grace, for by the law all fall short of the Glory of God.
Hence to the New Covenant there is no Jew or Gentile but has become Spiritual Israel, for them in Christ are the children of Abraham by Faith. So no way can anyone can go unto God through the old, but by the new.
For unto man it has come as the Old & the New, but unto God there is only one Covenant, the original Covenant in Christ Jesus, a copy of which was Moses asked to make. For before the foundation God chose each one in his Christ.
View all of this and there is no rationale to the present Zionism to these secular & rebellious Jews other than to the Biblical prophecy of “Spiritual Sodom & Egypt.”
The Old Testament Covenant was conditioned by God who told Israel not to marry or give in marriage outside the community.
But this law was transgressed form the beginning which eventually Prophet Erza declared that marrying from the heathen was to be “cut off” from the covenant of Israel, ’cause it transgressed the law, rightfully so, for the very “first reason” for the fall of Israel was to fall for those heathen worships, “The Baggage” from their heathen wives, with Solomon himself being the first great Apostate.
This cutoff stands good to the day for there is not one Jew who can claim Racial Purity. Genetic scans are but for racial convenience & proves nothing.
It is to this that the Bible calls the Old Testament at an end & the New Testament which is the fullness of Christ Jesus, come not by the law but by the Grace, for by the law all fall short of the Glory of God.
Hence to the New Covenant there is no Jew or Gentile but has become Spiritual Israel, for them in Christ are the children of Abraham by Faith. So no way can anyone can go unto God through the old, but by the new.
For unto man it has come as the Old & the New, but unto God there is only one Covenant, the original Covenant in Christ Jesus, a copy of which was Moses asked to make. For before the foundation God chose each one in his Christ.
View all of this and there is no rationale to the present Zionism to these secular & rebellious Jews other than to the Biblical prophecy of “Spiritual Sodom & Egypt.”
The promises God made to Abraham concerning the land as supposedly being eternal, are not as an end in themselves but are still only a foretaste of Heaven.
We see how Abraham and his descendants understood this land promise as such in Hebrews 11:
For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God … And so from this one man … came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore. All these people were still living by faith when they died.
“They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth…. Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.” (Heb. 11:10–16)
The “Jerusalem above,” the heavenly city for which the Old Testament patriarchs clearly were longing, was, is not the territory from Egypt to Iraq, but the permanent personal relationship with the living God in Heavenly Places. John 14:2
“In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.”
Why would anyone settle for a mere earthly home when he can rather have a mansion in Heaven?
“For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.” (2 Corinthians 5:1)
Brother Nathanael,
I would appreciate your thoughts and opinion as to whether the USA (the melting pot) is the true promised land where all of the tribes of Israel shall be united?
The USofA is the seat of Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots.
America is an Israeli controlled state. In the beginning of 2000 or 2001 maybe the Jewish priest brought their sacred scrolls to New York on a specially prepared plane and touched down in New York, rolled along the tarmac then took off again to Jerusalem.
The exercise was to transfer spiritual power to New York where they have built a new major synagogue by spiritual osmosis. Israel state is owned by the Rothschilds.
God’s Israel are only Bible-reading, born again Christians, the Church, regardless of what country your birth certificate states. SALVATION IS BY GRACE, NOT BY RACE. A True Israelite, The Elect Of God is a born again Christian.
God always had only one people. The Jews blew it and the Gospel went to the Gentiles.
Any Jew who repents and believes in Jesus Christ the Messiah who came about 2000 years ago can be grafted in to the OLIVE TREE again. There is much more also at whathathGodsaid.org. Praise the living God.
God bless you Nathanael, in Jesus’ name, Amen.
My new contact site is: haraldoskar AT gmail DOT com
My signal is not always good because my place is in the mountains but I will answer proper comments when I am able.
Please be patient. (2Peter 1:6)
I don’t believe the USA is anywhere referred to in the Bible except as vague references to islands or lands in the west and as Gentiles.
We are hardly a holy people, especially now with such godless leaders and the LGBT influence.
I think the USA was blessed as any nation is when it was directed by morally and Godly minded people but now we are seeing the results of our errors — curses on the land in the form of environmental and social disasters.
As to the Jews, I think something monumental must happen for them to accept Jesus Christ — what that is, I have no idea.
Brother Nathanael’s conversion is exceptional, not usual, but his insights into the Jewish mindthink seem reasonable.
Preach on Brother. I don’t agree with everything you say but in general we are in agreement that Jesus Christ is the only answer.
I feel somehow sorry for the Jews.
They are prey for Satan, not worthy enough to become Christians because of their evil heart.
I am happy that I, with all my family in Christ, can experience God and His Love and have the knowledge of good and the evil.
I think these are troubled times and someone might become confused by all the difficulties of this time. But who searches will find, and God in Heaven is my shelter.
Love from Holland
Christians Are God’s Chosen People, Israel is the Church – Talmudic Zionist Jews Are of Satan!
The so-called American Christians attending Temples of Doom self gagged under the IRS 501(c 3) Tax-exempt Code, together with the so-called Zionist Christians attending and supporting satanic ministries such as the John Hagee Ministry, together with the Filthy Whores of the U.S. Congress, and the Filthy Whores of CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, and FoxNews, are all in reality the willing accomplices of the Talmudic Zionist Jews of the fraudulent State of Israel.
Guilty as charged, for the systematic and widespread murder and extermination of innocent men, women, and children of Palestine.
John Hagee states from his Satanic sermons that the Jews do not need to come to Jesus Christ because they are “already covered” by God!
This Zionist/Christian Gentile piece of filth is responsible for souls being lost (both Jewish and Gentile).
How dare he say that anyone does not need the Blood of Christ for salvation! We are ALL in desperate need of our Saviour and Lord, Christ Jesus!
I know that this ass-clown Hagee is very wealthy from his fleecing of the “faithful,” but he had better get the most bang for his fiat (faux) dollars while he still can; unless he has found a way to take it with him on his way to hell!
If God was with the Jews in Israel, why did they find it hard to acknowledge Him? Because they rejected God the Son, so He rejected them, and they feel it a curse to even mention His name or even say God did this for us.
They are fighting for the right to be a country, so it may look like God is fighting for them, but far from it.
Didn’t Jesus say “Put down your sword? You kill by the sword, you’ll perish by the sword.” A servant of God doesn’t fight or learn war anymore, but they are waging a war for their own selfish reasons, killing one another.
But a day is coming when only God will bring true peace and happiness by means of His Son Christ Jesus, His appointed King.
How Does the Modern Claim to Statehood Compare?
Modern Israel’s secular attitude contrasts sharply with the situation in 537 B.C.E.
Back then, the nation of Israel was indeed ‘reborn’ as if in a day after being devastated and depopulated by the Babylonians 70 years earlier. At that time, Isaiah 66:8 was strikingly fulfilled when the Persian conqueror of Babylon, Cyrus the Great, authorized the return of the Jews to their homeland. — Ezra 1:2.
The Persian King Cyrus recognized Jehovah’s hand in the matter in 537 B.C.E., and those who returned to Jerusalem did so for the express purpose of restoring the worship of Jehovah God and rebuilding his temple.
The modern State of Israel has never officially declared any such desire or intention.
Still God’s Chosen Nation?
In the year 33 C.E., the fleshly nation of Israel lost its claim to be God’s chosen nation when it rejected Jehovah’s Son, the Messiah.
The Messiah himself put it this way: “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent forth to her . . . Look! Your house is abandoned to you.” (Matthew 23:37, 38)
Jesus’ statement came true when in 70 C.E., Roman legions destroyed Jerusalem along with its temple and priesthood. But what was to become of God’s purpose to have a “special property out of all other peoples, . . . a kingdom of priests and a holy nation”?—Exodus 19:5, 6.
The apostle Peter, himself a fleshly Jew, answered that question in a letter written to Christians — both Gentile and Jewish.
He wrote: “You are ‘a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession,’ . . . for you were once not a people, but are now God’s people; you were those who had not been shown mercy, but are now those who have been shown mercy.”—1 Peter 2:7-10.
Christians who were selected by the Holy Spirit thus belong to a spiritual nation, their membership not being determined by birth or geographic location.
The apostle Paul described the matter this way: “Neither is circumcision anything nor is uncircumcision, but a new creation is something. And all those who will walk orderly by this rule of conduct, upon them be peace and mercy, even upon the Israel of God.”—Galatians 6:15, 16.
Whereas the modern nation of Israel offers to confer citizenship upon any natural or converted Jew, citizenship in what the Bible calls “the Israel of God” is given only to those who are “obedient and sprinkled with the blood of Jesus Christ.” (1 Peter 1:1, 2)
Speaking of these members of the Israel of God, or spiritual Jews, Paul wrote: “He is not a Jew who is one on the outside, nor is circumcision that which is on the outside upon the flesh. But he is a Jew who is one on the inside, and his circumcision is that of the heart by spirit, and not by a written code. The praise of that one comes, not from men, but from God.”—Romans 2:28, 29.
That verse helps us understand a controversial comment Paul made. In his letter to the Romans, Paul explained how the unbelieving natural Jews were like branches of a symbolic olive tree that were lopped off so that “wild” Gentile “branches” could be grafted in. (Romans 11:17-21)
Concluding this illustration, he states: “A dulling of sensibilities has happened in part to Israel until the full number of people of the nations has come in, and in this manner all Israel will be saved.” (Romans 11:25, 26) Was Paul foretelling an eleventh hour mass conversion of the Jews to Christianity? Clearly, no such conversion has taken place.
By the expression “all Israel,” Paul meant all of spiritual Israel — Christians who have been selected by Holy Spirit. He was saying that the failure of the natural Jews to accept the Messiah would not thwart God’s purpose to have a spiritual ‘olive tree’ full of productive branches.
This is in harmony with Jesus’ own illustration of himself as a vine whose nonproductive branches will be lopped off. Jesus said: “I am the true vine, and my Father is the cultivator. Every branch in me not bearing fruit he takes away, and every one bearing fruit he cleans, that it may bear more fruit.”—John 15:1, 2.
Although the establishment of the modern State of Israel was not foretold in the Bible, the establishment of the nation of spiritual Israel certainly was! If you identify and associate with that spiritual nation today, you will reap eternal blessings.—Genesis 22:15-18; Galatians 3:8, 9.
Ok. You have me hooked.
Help me out here to reevaluate my understanding about the State of Israel. I am a born again believer, explain how God has cast off his people?
I know that one who is a a Jew is one inwardly and know Christ Jesus makes all people sons of God by his sacrifice those that believe in His name.
Start from the beginning and talk to me as one who knows nothing to what you are saying and I will learn something new.
We love you, Brother Nathanael.
Thank you so much for this truth! God bless you!
Most believe the English word Jew/Jewish relates to (all) of God’s chosen, in fact it is a corruption of a Latin word relating to Judah or House of Judah (two of the twelve tribes).
The people residing in Israel at the time of Christ’s ministry was this ‘House of Judah,’ the House of Israel (ten tribes) never returned and are called the ‘Lost Tribes’.
Also from 70AD to 1900’s, religious Jews returned to Palestine (at one time 300,000) believing God forbade re-establishing Israel in Palestine, so lived (about 2000 years) in peace with their Palestine neighbors (Arab, Christian, and Muslim)… until the Zionist arrived in early 1900 and ended all peace.
My heart is full of joy when I find there are still people who believe the Lord loves all his children and makes no distinction of creed or race.
What a bad model he would have been as a father. His only criterion is faith and good deeds. I believe he sent Jesus as mercy for all mankind. But a group of people claim to be his people only by words out of pride and arrogance arrogance, who by all standards show more sympathy for Satan by their deeds and ways.
I can’t understand how I can be a Christian Zionist when Zionism is overtly against Christ unless I deny him. Do they expect me to love Israel more than Jesus himself. He said he had come to the house of Israel not FOR Israel.
Only the blind of heart would not see that Jesus is the Messiah, the Anointed One. Yet many Jews reject him and his message of love.
They are expecting someone who will establish the supremacy of the Jews over the world. Indeed that person will come as predicted and most Jews will gather around him and this will be fatal for them because when Jesus will return he will destroy the Anti-Christ and his followers.
Unfortunately, writing on a blog won’t change anything in what has been predicted. There will be more and more injustices,more territorial greed, more killings. Men will become lovers of themselves and all biblical values like decency, respect for elders, love compassion and charity will simply be anachronic.
The only hope we can have is that perhaps some of our words may touch a few hearts and if it happens it will already be achievement.
Thank you
Rahman
Sadly, the hundreds of millions since 1828 believing these demonic errors and projected through Jewish sorcery, have had these major heresies inculcated for generations.
Knowledge of O.T. history is neglected and indeed, full understanding of Bible prophecy is missing. Ignorant preachers, teachers, scholars and thus the bulk of those filling the pews.
Let us face it. Also playing a key part in the hearts of all, is ‘having itching ears will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts’ ASV 1 Tim. 4:3. ‘They progressively pile’ them up corresponding to their full passions. All these millions are guilty of these sins and disobedience to the word of the gospel. All must repent.
Stop this pro Zionism by receiving all truth by expelling these doctrines of devils and the preachers unless they repent.
Do not be deceived by preachers’ lies about themselves, ‘You cannot touch God’s anointed’ – again demonic, such exegesis.
God bless you true Jews who see the light and hate the darkness!
So called “Christian” Bible prophecy peddlers who make a quick buck out of other people’s suffering will have a lot to answer for!
The Jews have lost the plot long before Jesus came.
God cursed them for they used to mock and kill prophets, always majority denied their teachings and followed their forefathers and pharisees.
Even Jesus prophesied that the Kingdom of God will be taken away from them and given to a fruitful nation (Matt 21:43). So it is clear that they are following satanic movement of their Jewish cult.
In the Forbes rich list, Jews are leading. Why? Because of their nature to deceive, lie etc because Satan is of this world and Jews want to establish and govern the world forever.
But Jesus told us not to worry about what we will eat tomorrow (parable of birds). And he told Jewish leaders that his kingdom is not of this world unlike the Pharisees who wanted to establish their corrupted version of the Torah.
The second gathering has not occurred yet.
Acts 7:6, 7
@Damian
Acts 7:6,7 refers to the FIRST gathering out of Egypt from enslavement to Pharoah.
The SECOND gathering already took place with the Jews returning from Babylon.
Exactly.
The only time Israel fulfils prophecy is when their Messiah shall return to govern Israel and the world, as the Jews will be brought from the ends of the earth and an age of world wide peace shall occur.
The fact that the State of Israel currently rejects Jesus (Jesus actually IS the Messiah in reality) means they don’t have the peace of God, and thus Israel isn’t yet consummated into the Kingdom of God.
The consummation of the world occurs when Jesus returns.
Another terrible thing about current Zionism is the idea to build the Third Temple, a blatant blasphemy against Christ’s once and for all sacrifice on the cross, as the purpose of the Third Temple is the reinstitution of Old Testament animal sacrifices.
Keep preaching the gospel of Christ crucified and risen again.
Brother, your link to “Record of Dispossession” is dead.
They redesigned their website. I thought I’d let you know!
Thanks for the Truth!
“Are we not already seeing foreshadowings of the Anti Christ vis a vis the Jewish disturbances of world peace?”
This may be the keystone of all your works and struggle, Brother Nathanael.
During the peace talks between my nation Turks and Kurds in the past decade, the prevailing Jews tried hard to prevent peace and burn the nations.
This is my subjective idea of the events we witnessed.
When they’re pushing the Turkish Army for wars, they also supported the Kurds and increased the nationalism between them and advised them to rebel and war against Turks.
Very interesting comments under this article.
To know God’s divine plan vividly we would need to be prophets ourselves and given a divine vision such as the apostles.
It seems to me whenever Israel was brought out of slavery or captivity such as world war II, there was a prophet who raised them up, even such as Macabees, and any who God raised up, where do we see this in modern Israel?
I found this article looking for any information I missed regarding modern Jewish Prophets. I know there are Jewish Prophets who are received by the Jews and not so known to most Christians.
I think the wisdom literature such as the Testaments of the 12 Patriarchs is a good resource to know the fate of Israelite people.
Judah, in the Testament of Judah, prophesied that his people would be destroyed because of Wine, Women, Harlotry.
Testament of Judah ch. III
30 And now, I command you, my children, not to love money, nor to gaze upon the beauty of women; because for the sake of money and beauty I was led astray to Bathshua the Canaanite.
31 For I know that because of these two things shall my race fall into wickedness.
32 For even wise men among my sons shall they mar, and shall cause the kingdom of Judah to be diminished, which the Lord gave me because of my obedience to my father.
It seems that Constantine was using the World Institution to Establish Christian Authority, Rome is not such a divine institution.
If Peter was authority over the Jews, such as the gospels state, and Paul over the Gentiles, The state of Rome was Pagan until Constantine converted, so to understand the authority over the Jews in divine law, I am missing the connection to Israel as a state, Rome is a high office over its own institution.
America was established in such a way that it’s hard to really explain the true establishment of the Government, George Washington stated that he didn’t establish the Government upon Religion, during the separation of Church and State.
The early Presidents spoke ill of Church Institution. Yet they were born of Christian families, and had been baptized themselves. Even if they chose to be pagan or deist it would not be the same as any of the Pagan societies rulers, they were born from Christian families and the providence of God established community in our early development, not so in all other societies with exception to Canada.
Jewish dominion seems to be withing their own community and their own business. The illusion of Jewish sovereignty is their liberty in free trade, the corruption involved with monopolizing world capital creates another illusion, Macabees dealt with tyranny.
I wonder if God is going to raise another Macabees family?
I believe the creation of the modern state of Israel is included in Biblical prophecy, but it’s a warning to believers of what must come to pass so that we’re aware and know the signs of the return of Christ.
Just because it’s a prophecy, doesn’t mean it’s always a ‘good’ thing.
Israel only has its territories back, thanks to the League of Western nations that came together to create this cursed state.
The United States was one of the biggest interested in it and after it is created; such Jews began to steal, massacre and expel the Palestinian people. And the US government (Illuminati), always turn a blind eye to this, as part of its expancionalista expolítica policy.
Even PSEU-Christian religions in America were manipulated to accept these facts and murders with help of manipulative media that distort facts, always showing these Palestinians as everyone’s problem and the primary cause of such atrocities.
The Church itself is betraying Christ.
See:
– God of Israel or God’s Church? – (Movie 3 min)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKAo6s0SODY
– So eat the construction of the Third Temple in Israel which is nothing more than a false flag to the Christian world in one of many maneuvers to extort them money, faithful and blind community because Israel can build without the help of anyone, evil is surplus of Christians that interests SIONISTASpara use that money to fund more murders and Zionist invasions, wake up Christians!
– The Farce of the Third Temple in Jerusalem Construction! –
http://www.aquarius2036.com.br/2014/11/farsa-construcao-do-terceiro-templo-em-jerusalem.html
Brother Nathanael, will you do me the favor of answering this question?
You seem to be very knowledgable on many subjects.
I have been trying to piece my version of the model of reality and I find it easy to find leads, but not so much to find certainty in the world of disinformation.
My question…
Is it true that the term Jew was never spoken of until the 17th century literature, and that people from Judea were the first to be referred to as Jews, not necessarily those that were part of a race of people? Jesus wasn’t a Jew because he wasn’t from Judea and he didn’t follow Judaism, correct?
The Zionist movement through the manipulation of the Bible through things like the Scofield reference Bible are what have helped shape the perspective that Jesus was a Jew, and that Christians should support the Jewish nation because God wants them to, etc..
So basically, I am finding research that states that Jesus wasn’t a Jew, he was Galilean, and that the disciples weren’t Jewish either because being Jewish was tied to the faith of Judaism, not a specific race of people.
Thanks in advance for your perspective.
Sons of Lucifer hate GOD and hate Bible.
Very informative indeed.
I am a born again Christian that does not support the State of Israel.
The region should have become an international zone, not a Zionist gathering place.
Good point.
How could the Jews be anywhere close to being meek?
The real Jews are still scattered all over the earth in every nation of the world.
The condition for their restoration is repentance. These gangsters in Israel have not repented. In fact to be an Israelite today you have to denounce your religion. So if you were a Christian, you have to convert to Judaism.
Jesus said in Revelations 2:9 …”I know the blasphemy of them who say they are Jews and are not but are the synagogue of Satan”. So clearly there are fake Jews. But who are they?
They are those who want the whole world to know that they are Jews. I had been deceived for many years that we have to pray for these guys and will be blessed by doing so. But God opened my eyes recently to see this deception. And now I am amazed at how easy it is to deceive even great men of God when we do not question doctrines by searching what the Word says about them.
The Word is our only hope.
Thank you for speaking truth.
The people of Israel are racists, they hate Christians, they persecute the Palestanians and sadly, here in the US, the Zionists have infiltrated the mega churches, funded them, please watch out for the fake Christians like John Hagee, any church who is a member of the National Council of Churches are on the side of the Zionist.
Jay Sekulow, Michael Savage, fake Alex Jones aka Bill Hicks, are all afraid to expose truth about the Zionist Jews. Please spread the truth.
Many well meaning Christians are unaware of the Christian Zionist churches and what they truly stand for. We must expose truth. Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9
You are absolutely correct, and keep telling the truth.
If people just read their KJV Bibles and follow the blessings they will know where and who the true Israelites are.
Romans 11:25: For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
This is talking about the True Israelites the lost sheep, and lost house of Israel. They are blinded to their identity until the end of days the veil will be lifted on some. The USA is the House of Joseph. Follow the end of Day blessing in Gen. 48-50.
Hi I would like to say Thank you very much for this site.
I have a question: there are 12 tribes mentioned:
Judah, Ruben, Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Manasseh, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph and Benjamin.
But what of the Tribe of Dan that the Antichrist is said to come from. Why is it not mentioned anywhere when it is so important?
Are the Tribe of Dan the Zionists who are spread throughout the world?
Thank you.
Love Peace and Light
Very interesting comments.
I have studied Arnold Fruchtenbaum’s work closely, as other messianic teachers’ work. I have traveled to Israel and every Arab nation in the Middle East. Latterly I have been prompted by God to investigate the Zion state of Israel in regard to its true biblical reference (or not).
I am sympathetic to all people who have been driven from lands, the last being Syria. There is much behind these wars than just ISIS – political powers, gun companies and other evil agendas, not related to religious wars at all. God is available to all who call on Him.
The old has been replaced by the new–Jesus. Some say the Jews are returning now due to persecution in their own countries. Others say the Jews are being brought back to Israel for judgment and only a remnant will survive, a remnant true to God.
Many of the stated Israel agencies do not focus on telling Israeli Jews about Jesus -only to comfort. Like ICEJ and Christian Friends, etc. In Isaiah it states “shall a nation be formed in a day (as with the stroke of a pen) which is how it occurred at the end –but behind the scenes was all the politics by Britain and others.
I am inclined as I get older, to veer towards the heavenly Jerusalem. As stated in His word, we are told we are only passing through this earth, then why importance placed on a physical dwelling place or property.
There is no going back regarding Israel, but finding a solution for the maltreatment of other ethnic peoples in that land–prior to 1948 there were both Jews, Arabs and other tribal groups living there in peace, until the impact of Zionist rule disturbed that peace for ever.
I think we need to ask God continually which is the correct Biblical referencing, and keep asking Him until we are sure in regard to Israel, the land, the government and its future in history.
I enjoyed the articles and as usual, great controversy within the comments section between what I see is yet another division between people that’s designed by the powers currently in charge.
I see the State of Israel for what it really is and it’s not at all the Nation of Israel. It’s a counterfeit. Weren’t the Israelis rescued from Egypt in Exodus warned of this?
We are also warned in the New Testament. The masses continues to fall for the deception and they will once again fall because there are too many eyes still seeing the pretty pictures instead of shifting focus to reality for what it really is.
The anti-Christ has to come before Jesus Christ, as according to biblical prophecy.
What better way to do this than create the State of Israel and keep it center stage of all controversies and divisions until it reaches it’s 70th year when the so-called messiah comes forth to convince the masses his second coming has indeed arrived? We were warned of this. Continually warned of this and yet the majority do not listen.
The majority will fall for the rebuilt Jerusalem and the rest of the Zionist’s schemes, and this is where the real war between those who know the truth and those who are still blinded by counterfeits will erupt.
This is nothing yet, but we’re close. Division between people has never been as great as it is now and never before has the world been in such a faithless, sorry state as it is now.
The majority are worshipping counterfeits and don’t even know it. Try reasoning with any of them is like talking to the famed brick wall. Reality checks just bounce off the closed-minded, even if their hearts are in the right place.
So Jerusalem is currently being rebuilt in the state of Israel, but is it truly being rebuilt to what it should be, or is it being built for another purpose? Has anybody considered that question? Likely not.
If Zionists are in charge of rebuilding Jerusalem and the temple, do you honestly think they’re doing this for God? No, they’re doing so for the one master whom they do serve and he goes by the name of Lucifer.
Whether or not people want to believe the Zionists are indeed Illuminati members, or involved in some sort of satanic cult we don’t 100% understand yet is their business. Everybody has a right to an opinion.
Based on my observations and how this world is becoming increasingly upside down, we are literally on death’s doorstep and World War III erupting into a full blown blood bath as this is precisely how it’s been engineered. WWIII already began when WWI and WWII and had their respective runs.
Everything we know, everything we’re exposed to God (via Jesus Christ) saw coming and warned us about. Revelations clearly dictates those who pay attention will know better than to fall for the garbage and it is also stated only a tiny handful will get it. Based on the comments I’ve read this is correct.
We are living in a modern-day Egypt where we are once again surrounded by oppressors who are bent to destroy each of us and they’re doing a really good job of it. We’re divided, conflicted and almost nobody is willing to meet in the middle and this is where we need to be.
Jesus is the bridge and virtually nobody is willing to stand with Him, especially these days. Instead, they’re more interested in voicing their side of an argument instead of taking a moment to have a good look at what the Holy Spirit within is telling them. The Holy Spirit doesn’t want us fighting, but yet here we are doing the polar opposite.
God doesn’t want us fighting, especially each other, but we’re not listening. At least not listening to understand anyway. Jesus Christ said love, not hate, is the key to humanity’s survival on every level there is, especially spiritually.
Sadly, there’s more hate than love going on and it shows everywhere. It shows in social media, the news, on the streets, even in the churches. I worked as a hall manager for the Roman Catholic Church and what I saw within the congregation was disgusting. So venomous with their opinions of their fellow church members I found it hard to believe these are true Christians.
So, as we squabble among ourselves over the initial post and the opinions we’ve had about it, where do we honestly stand? Are we in any position to judge based on what truly is a limited understanding of the bigger picture? Are the speculations we’re casting worth any merit at all? Those are all questions worth asking and wait for the Holy Spirit to provide the answer.
As the famed Obi Wan Kenobi from Star Wars quotes; your eyes can deceive you, don’t trust them.
I’ve learned not to trust my eyes. At least not to blindly fall for what’s thrown in my face by twisted media sources nor biased views of human beings (including priests) not as enlightened as they’d like to think they are.
I’ve also learned to be wary of the mind. The mind reacts based on what the eyes see and it too can be manipulated. And this, in turn, can corrupt the heart and so it too cannot be trusted.
All this madness has got to come to pass so that we can grow up even more and finally reach an agreement of who our enemies truly are and how we (along with the help of the true Messiah) can finally conquer them once and for all.
just read this article and its SOOOO powerful just like the rest of them.
.I believe using your Bible & New Testament knowledge while speaking TO A LIVE AUDIENCE once a week is what is missing here
The only thing missing, and why your incredible writing skills [and therefore powerful message] is not being heard “round the world” yep..preaching to live audience in a physical church and uploading it onto your Real Jew News website would [will] make a HUGE difference.
I have about 60 K now, but hope [and with the Lords help] to have about 600 K by end of 2017 and THAT will be enough for a physical church you can preach all this incredibly important infomation from.
– Brother Randy
How does that sound to everyone?
Wouldn’t you love to watch an hour long sermon once a week of Brother Nathanael preaching TO A LIVE AUDIENCE?
Sermonizing to A LIVE AUDIENCE inside the True Israel,the ‘REAL’ Church?
Jesus’s Bride is Israel/the Church.
Brother Nathanael MUST HAVE A CHURCH TO PREACH IN/FROM.
THAT is what is missing here.
I had a powerful dream last night, and earlier in the day was baptized [for the 2nd time since infancy] FULLY IMMERSED in the holy water of life, water = life, and now know why fully immersed baptism is a must for true salvation. Finally felt all my past sin was washed away.
John the Baptist did ONLY FULL IMMERSION BAPTISMS and Christ was also baptized in a FULL IMMERSION baptism, as per the Bible NT.
Christians ARE indeed the new “real Jews,” Israel IS indeed the Church.
Brother N. is absolutely correct.
– Brother Randy
I was born in the early 1960’s and some people who see my surname start on about me being a Jew, I inform them that I am a Christian, as 5 generations that I know of, but such people reject outright anything I may say.
I just let it slide as it’s no point they will not listen anyway because there ignorance is astounding!
I point out that Jesus Christ is the king of Israel and that Israel means the Servants of God and that Judah means the People of God.
There is nothing but Christ Jesus (Lord Salvation) for one’s Salvation you need to abide in his Grace; other than that, one is like a dog chasing his own tail and you will get nowhere, as such is just madness.
The word play nowadays is all mixed up, like the State of Israel? People believe it’s Israel, but Christianity has claimed to be Israel for 2000 years, so how can a unrepented people come back laying claim to being Israel, not to mention who reject God the Father’s Son?
Now Jesus name is called Emmanuel (God with us) and he is the Son that proceeds from God the Father, and within the comprehension in the Holy Spirit we do know that all 3 are one in the same, but 3 different personal identities in one — one God in three Persons.
So 2000 years ago the game play was to make out that Jesus was making out that he was God the Father in order to kill him, just as they did with all of God’s Prophets that came to the Vineyard and were killed by the ungodly who took over God’s Vineyard by stealth unawares to the people.
This cunning mob have worked to corrupt the people, the same mob rejected Holy Moses and tried to kill him, they built that Golden Calf Idol as well, they never wanted the Kingdom of God, but were Possessed by the works of Satan (the one that leads the whole world astray).
So what in the hell do the so called Jews have to offer? It’s not the Kingdom of God that’s for sure, they are as lost in their madness and will only lead the blind.
All this game play of cunning words like Humanism, Political Correctness that sure sounds good to a fool, but in fact, once you open that can of worms you find out just how cunning the intentions are too deceive all into making Slaves of you under such evil madness.
The people who lived under Communism and Nazis know this Political Correct BS caper well because they lived with it’s enslavement.
It becomes a Big Bro, the demented idiot who wants to control everything and everyone because he is a moronic dictating bastard and a poor drip that can’t handle healthy criticism or the Truth at all and can’t comprehend God at all because he can’t see past himself.
Dr Jonathan Welton & Gary Demar both explain the fulfillment of all prophecy concerning Israel has already occurred
Therefore modern day Israel is not & was not a fulfillment of prophecy as that would be a ‘third’ regathering & the Bible makes no such claim.
Jesus is perfect theology & His proclamation was to go into ALL the world.
He said go to all NATIONS. He never exalted one nation or group of people over another. That should be the biggest voice of all as Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.
In the beginning God created man in His image, He didn’t create only a ‘favorite’ group of people…His desire is for ALL NATIONS FOR ALL MANKIND to come to know Him.
Man has come in with partiality & greed to misrepresent the Father’s heart. This has kept many from coming into relationship with Him.
My prayer is that since God is no respector of persons neither should we be.
We should overcome evil with His love & prove to the powers of darkness that we love not our own lives unto death.
(Dr Welton & Gary Demar can be found on YouTube)
Reading Ephesians 2 it is clear that Gentiles are fellow citizens of Israel.
A fellow citizen of an American = American. It is we who by faith are sons of Abraham.
I see Bro Nathanael is spot on and is enlightening the sleepy brethren to the satanic switch. They were utterly cut off having no genealogies to prove a fleshly lineage.
They weaponized the OT as a financial takeover of all nations.
People still think Satan is the ruler of the Earth, but Jesus said, “All power in Heaven and Earth has been given to me.” “It is finished.”
Jeremiah 31:31-34 + 1John 2:27
Satan is making trouble on Earth because he knows his time is short according to Revelation.